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Just to add as well, I have been constantly dismayed by the lack of knowledge shown by some of the people representing the companies, not only Breitling but other high end watches, I really trust my AD, the maintence people have all been over to Switzeralnd and trained and their knowledge first rate where as other ad's have been less so. I remember phoning another watch brands HQ here in Canada and they gave me completley the wrong information on the product, I ended up going direct to the manufactures website where I got the right info!
I really hope you get what you are looking for, it is a beautiful watch either way!

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Hi Ian. Thank you very much for your help and effort in guiding me in this very imprtant purchase. You are absolutely correct in saying that the majority of the cost of this watch is in the diamonds ..but what I find absolutely incredible is the fact that both my AD whcih in the UK are very well known (Goldsmiths) and worst of all Breitling Uk don't seem to know waht they are making watches from in Switzerland. One question Ian, would you personally purchase any watch, let alone a Breitling costing this amount of money that was Gold plated? I would be interested in your thoughts. Once again thanks.

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Hi Ian. Thank you very much for your help and effort in guiding me in this very imprtant purchase. You are absolutely correct in saying that the majority of the cost of this watch is in the diamonds ..but what I find absolutely incredible is the fact that both my AD whcih in the UK are very well known (Goldsmiths) and worst of all Breitling Uk don't seem to know waht they are making watches from in Switzerland. One question Ian, would you personally purchase any watch, let alone a Breitling costing this amount of money that was Gold plated? I would be interested in your thoughts. Once again thanks.


I think that if there were no diamonds then I would not, I think I would rather save the money and go for all SS, by the way your watch in SS with the diamonds is a stunner, I have seen admins in person and I really like the effect.
My friend who has the TT cockpit loves it, does not care one bit that it is rolled gold in fact when I was speaking to him today he said he was glad the bracelet was that so as not to wear out, did not bother him in the least especially as it was made very clear to him at time of purchase, I explained to him what you are being told and he said he would have been very ticked off if that had happened to him!

The quality of the SS by the way is so good that it looks like white gold to me!
In your position I would personally go for the SS with Diamonds option and forget about the gold, you have got one heck of a set of diamonds there!

P.S you are not far from where I used to live and grew up, Dawlish in Devon, used to visit Bristol frequently if I wanted to live it up a bit, lovely city though the clifton suspension bridge still gives me the queezeies!

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Hi Ian. Thank you very very much for you reply, it gives me a great feeling that you were discussing my dilema with a friend. this is what makes this Forum so special, the people in it. Yes I think It is a stunning watch and with waiting for it to come in so I can to pick it up, then this thing about the gold, I am not sleeping to soundly at present. You mentioned the Clifton Suspension Bridge in your last reply, well several people each year jump off of it cause they can't take it any more.........well I was close to it..... LOL.
I think Bristol is a good place to live, I have lived here all my life, but would love to see Canada it always looks so clean and beautiful in pictures. My wife is American, she comes from NY and says she loved it when she visit Canada.

I will talk to my AD tomorrow, discuss the Gold with them again, may be even phone Breitling UK again to see what they have to say about their Bum information.

Cheers Ian. I will post photos of what ever watch I decide to go for when I get it, heaven knows what it will be at the moment though!!!

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Using the terms 'rolled gold' and 'plating' interchangeably is inaccurate - they are very different. Rolled gold will not "rub off after a few years of wear". There are many, many gold filled (rolled gold) pocket watch cases that are more than 100 years old and show no evidence of brassing (base metal showing through).

I have answered the TT question many times in the last week, and based on every piece of information I have I stand by my answer.

Please note that there are two types of TT - ones with steel bezels and ones with gold bezels. The bezels (but nothing else) are solid gold on the gold ones.


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Hi again Ian. I've sent a couple of photos of the Clifton Suspension bridge. Hope you enjoy


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Hi Roff.
I know it may seem to be going on abit, this gold issue, but it is going to be a major purchase for me. I take on board what you say about rolled gold and 100 year old pocket watches lasting the test of time. You are a very knowledgable man :bow: Unfortunately for me the only part that is solid gold on the TT is the bezel, but on mine (if I buy it) the bezel is Diamonds. Can't win em all! :oops:

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Hi Roff.
I know it may seem to be going on abit, this gold issue, but it is going to be a major purchase for me. I take on board what you say about rolled gold and 100 year old pocket watches lasting the test of time. You are a very knowledgable man :bow: Unfortunately for me the only part that is solid gold on the TT is the bezel, but on mine (if I buy it) the bezel is Diamonds. Can't win em all! :oops:


I'm aware that it's a major purchase, but you'll get my best answer the first time, and at the risk of sounding arrogant, I trust my judgement a little more than some staff at Breitling. They should have better information than me, but none of my contacts have any information on TTs becoming solid gold. I don't think it makes sense for crowns and pushers - it will reduce their life as gold is so much softer than steel and the TT isn't the pure dress watch that an all gold piece is.

I am aware of the fact that you are getting the diamond bezel, my point was simply that Breitling may be getting confused by referring to the TT version with a gold bezel rather than steel - the bezel is solid on there as has been said.

If the piece you are looking at is on bracelet then there is a very easy way to tell - just look at one of the gold links side on - if it's rolled gold then you will clearly see the base layer of steel underneath the 20 microns of gold.


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Roff. I will do that tomorrow, Just to prove the point to these sales people, that we are not stupid! Does it make you mad too that they are so badly trained in what they do? giving us Bum info

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Hi again Ian. I've sent a couple of photos of the Clifton Suspension bridge. Hope you enjoy


Oh wow, that brings back memories! Thank you so much!

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I have been in contact with Beitling London again today, last night after my conversation with them, they contacted Switzerland for confirmation and are now waiting for a call from them as confirmation. By Breitling London doing this, I don't think they are 100% certain of their previous statement about Evolution Chronomats having solid gold features/accents. I will return with a post when they call me with the facts straight from the "Horses Mouth". :guns:

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