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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:52 pm 
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I've seen a Breitling that I really like from an independent AD. It is brand new, however, the model was discontinued in 2010 so it's probably been in the display or safe for a minimum of 6 years without use.

I understand that mechanical watches need servicing around the 5 year mark.

So if I were to purchase this watch, would it need servicing, say within a year? or because it's not been used much, would it likely last 3-4 years before it'll need a service?


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Well it's not brand new, it's just never been sold.

It will need a service, the good news is you will get a 2 year warranty so the servicing won't cost you anything.


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So the service is covered under the warranty?
If anything parts need replacing, would I be liable for the cost or would this again be covered under warranty seeing as the watch is unworn.

Also, would it be advisable to send it in immediately for a service, or should I wait until it's out of COSC specs?


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If it needs a service, and by the end of the warranty it will be 8 years old so it will, that will be covered. I would let the watch settle and see how it performs, send it in when necessary or as the 2 year window draws to an end. There's no risk for you in this circumstance so you may as well extend the time until you have to lay for a service for as long as possible, which means leaving this one as late as possible.


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I just got this reply from BUK, and they are saying that the service is not covered under warranty apparently, or am I missing something?

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You are missing the point that the watch won't run properly after 8 years since production with no servicing. You aren't going to say you want your watch serviced as it comes to the end of the warranty period, you're going to say "hey, this watch you sold me 22 months ago can't hold COSC specs, the power reserve is less than you claim, etc." The fix is to service the watch.



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Roffensian wrote:
You are missing the point that the watch won't run properly after 8 years since production with no servicing. You aren't going to say you want your watch serviced as it comes to the end of the warranty period, you're going to say "hey, this watch you sold me 22 months ago can't hold COSC specs, the power reserve is less than you claim, etc." The fix is to service the watch.


Point taken, thanks Roff.
I would plan to send it in 22-23 months provided it keeps good time until then :lol: :lingsrock:

Would they be able to check and then reject carrying out any servicing work on it if they find, for example that the watch is +6 per day, and so technically, still within COSC?

I'm worried that it might keep time for the first 2 years, but then suddenly gain significant amounts after 2 or 3 months of the warranty expiring.

If it wasn't for this concern, I would have bought it by now because it is a very nice watch.


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A watch that is 8 years old will need servicing, trust me on that. If you tell them you are having issues they will open the watch up, see it has no lubrication and service it under warranty. They aren't going to waste time and money trying to prove you wrong believe me.

If you like the watch then buy the watch and stop worrying.



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What a coincidence; I dealt with this very issue today. Purchased a LE Montbrilliant Legende 47 just ten days ago and it too had been on display for quite sometime before i purchased it 'new' from an AD. I soon noticed crown winding was very stiff and so I took it to the Breitling drop off location at the Orlando boutique. I was told pointedly that my new warranty would NOT cover any problem related to lack of servicing by the AD and so I went back to the AD. Of course the AD disputed this and said the watch was new. Long story short, I exchanged the watch under their 10 day policy and now have a Navitimer 01 and it's working perfectly with a 5 year warranty inserted of the two year warranty with the Montbrilliant.


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Roffensian wrote:
You are missing the point that the watch won't run properly after 8 years since production with no servicing.


Why is that then?

I purchased a NEW (unused) Breitling B01 Flying Fish from an AD that was five years old according to the stamp in between the Lugs, when I asked Breitling UK this very same question they said it wouldn't need a service for five years, making my Watch ten years old by the time it needs a service!

I'm quesing the movement must be of similar age to the Case?

I was told that modern synthetic Oils don't break down nor evaporate or dry out with age whilst the Watch isn't ticking?


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Matt68 wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
I was told that modern synthetic Oils don't break down nor evaporate or dry out with age whilst the Watch isn't ticking?

That's flat out incorrect.

Synt-a-Lube - the synthetic oils used in watches have predictable aging / breakdown rates that are published and provided in a booklet shipped with the oils. The bottles also have expiry dates. Oils break down, that's inevitable and when they do they are incapable of providing as much lubrication. Whether the watch is running or not is completely irrelevant to the breakdown of the oils.


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Roffensian wrote:
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Roffensian wrote:
I was told that modern synthetic Oils don't break down nor evaporate or dry out with age whilst the Watch isn't ticking?

That's flat out incorrect.

Synt-a-Lube - the synthetic oils used in watches have predictable aging / breakdown rates that are published and provided in a booklet shipped with the oils. The bottles also have expiry dates. Oils break down, that's inevitable and when they do they are incapable of providing as much lubrication. Whether the watch is running or not is completely irrelevant to the breakdown of the oils.


So Breitling UK gave me the wrong info? and I even spoke to them again for a second opinion on this!

I started a thread on a local UK forum on this subject also, and every person that replied said my Watch would need a service in five years despite its manufacture date!

And a tin of baked beans has a sell by date, but are fit to be eaten a long time after!


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Your watch, do what you like, but BUK can't defy the laws of basic chemistry - oils break down over time.

Would you leave your car for five years without running it and think the oil was as good as new?


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Roffensian wrote:

Would you leave your car for five years without running it and think the oil was as good as new?


Yes!


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Wow, really nothing else for me to say then.


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