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 Post subject: Aerospace 1999 vs. 2004
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:00 pm 
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Hi All,

I have another thread about a 1999 Aerospace from Tourneau that I am looking at but they are also bringing in a 2004 model from another location for me to compare. I am looking to buy in the next few days so any assistance is much appreciated. The 1999 has the titanium professional band and a dark gray/green (I think) face. I've seen it in person and it looks brand new. I have not seen the 2004 but I believe the salesman from Tourneau said it has a gray face and it definitely has a titanium band (do not know which titanium band specifically).

Both watches come with a 2 year warranty and free Breitling batteries for life. They come with Breitling boxes (not the original I don't think) and no papers, but paperwork from Tourneau (is this a substitute for having original papers?). The 1999 is offered at $1,495 but I already told Tourneau that I will pay between $1,100 and $1,200. Does this seem fair, or should I go lower? They told me that is a lot to ask for but the watch has been sitting there for a while so if I am persistent I am relatively confident that I can get deal that I am happy with.

The 2004 model is priced at $1,795. I know less about the pricing for this model but I am considering offering $1,400 for it. Does this sound reasonable.

For those able to respond, which one would you take? I can afford either one but I would prefer to spend less money, especially since they have nearly the same design and the improved accuracy of the SQ movement in the 2004 model does not matter a whole lot to me. Some commented in my previous thread that the 1999's movement is more susceptible to needing expensive repairs but how big of an issue is this given the warranty (i.e. if it is going to break is it likely to do so 2 years after Tourneau has restored it/sold it to me)? Does the 2004 model have any other noteworthy features that would justify the price increase?

Overall, I'd like to buy the 1999 because of it's price but if some think I should buy the 2004 even when they both have warranties I'd be interested to know exactly why, and I am most interested in determining if I am asking too much (or to little) off the asking price of these watches.

Thanks everyone.....when I make my choice and pick the watch up I will post some pics!


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Is anyone able to answer any of my questions? I am ready to buy but I would be far more confident buying the watch knowing the answers to all (or at least some) of these questions. Thanks!


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It may be that folks already said what they had to say in the first thread you started on this topic, and don't know why you aren't discussing it there. Just a shot.


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I'm not completely sure on what you are asking. Price is a matter of researching and finding comparables - I have no idea what these specific pieces are selling for. Which one you should choose is personal choice - which do you like better?


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wrangler wrote:
It may be that folks already said what they had to say in the first thread you started on this topic, and don't know why you aren't discussing it there. Just a shot.


I added a few more posts a while back to my first thread and I thought maybe people were not looking in it because they assumed I was just responding to others who had posted in it.


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I'm guessing as to others, but, speaking for myself, I find it inconvenient for a discussion to be split among threads. It's harder to refer back to previous posts, and requires the extra effort of switching between pages, and trying to figure out what has and has not already been covered. I usually won't bother.

I'm relatively new to this forum, and was actually standing by, curious to see the forum policy on merging threads like this.


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Roffensian wrote:
I'm not completely sure on what you are asking. Price is a matter of researching and finding comparables - I have no idea what these specific pieces are selling for. Which one you should choose is personal choice - which do you like better?


I have tried to research prices but there are not too many Aerospaces being sold on this forum (or that were sold recently enough to reflect today's prices) that are similar/the same as the two that I am looking at. Also, ebay pricing is bizarre as I see watches listed on there for drastically different prices.

I like both pieces (the 2004 Aerospace ti/blue face for $1,795 and the 1999 gray face for $1,495) but I am trying to figure out from those who have purchased recently or know the Aerospace market well how low I can ask given the condition of the watches that I have described (and the fact that they have a box and receipt from Tourneau stating authenticity but no original papers). I am also taking into account the fact that the 1999 may have more issues because it does not have the newer SQ movement which I believe is covered by Breitling for a while.

I know these are specific questions and they may be hard to answer which is fine. I am just trying to make the most informed decision possible as both watches have pros and cons.


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wrangler wrote:
I'm guessing as to others, but, speaking for myself, I find it inconvenient for a discussion to be split among threads. It's harder to refer back to previous posts, and requires the extra effort of switching between pages, and trying to figure out what has and has not already been covered. I usually won't bother.

I'm relatively new to this forum, and was actually standing by, curious to see the forum policy on merging threads like this.


I understand what you are saying. I tried to put most of the important information in my first post so skipping from thread to thread would not be necessary. However, I'll plan not to split threads up again. Thanks.


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Just my opinion, trying to guess at an answer to your question.


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Aerospace10 wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
I'm not completely sure on what you are asking. Price is a matter of researching and finding comparables - I have no idea what these specific pieces are selling for. Which one you should choose is personal choice - which do you like better?


I have tried to research prices but there are not too many Aerospaces being sold on this forum (or that were sold recently enough to reflect today's prices) that are similar/the same as the two that I am looking at. Also, ebay pricing is bizarre as I see watches listed on there for drastically different prices.

I like both pieces (the 2004 Aerospace ti/blue face for $1,795 and the 1999 gray face for $1,495) but I am trying to figure out from those who have purchased recently or know the Aerospace market well how low I can ask given the condition of the watches that I have described (and the fact that they have a box and receipt from Tourneau stating authenticity but no original papers). I am also taking into account the fact that the 1999 may have more issues because it does not have the newer SQ movement which I believe is covered by Breitling for a while.

I know these are specific questions and they may be hard to answer which is fine. I am just trying to make the most informed decision possible as both watches have pros and cons.



Advice in the FAQs (#2 here - http://www.breitlingsource.com/articles_faq.shtml#8) is to check completed listings on eBay and to check places like Chrono24. There are currently more than 70 returns for 'Breitling Aerospace' on Chrono 24 so plenty of reference pieces to help you out (remembering that many are dealer asking prices) - http://www.chrono24.com/en/breitling/ae ... earch=true

Ultimately buying a watch is a personal decision that should be driven as much by emotion as anything else, you can't (or shouldn't) be deciding on a watch based on purely logical choices or the vox pop.


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Roffensian wrote:
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Roffensian wrote:
I'm not completely sure on what you are asking. Price is a matter of researching and finding comparables - I have no idea what these specific pieces are selling for. Which one you should choose is personal choice - which do you like better?


I have tried to research prices but there are not too many Aerospaces being sold on this forum (or that were sold recently enough to reflect today's prices) that are similar/the same as the two that I am looking at. Also, ebay pricing is bizarre as I see watches listed on there for drastically different prices.

I like both pieces (the 2004 Aerospace ti/blue face for $1,795 and the 1999 gray face for $1,495) but I am trying to figure out from those who have purchased recently or know the Aerospace market well how low I can ask given the condition of the watches that I have described (and the fact that they have a box and receipt from Tourneau stating authenticity but no original papers). I am also taking into account the fact that the 1999 may have more issues because it does not have the newer SQ movement which I believe is covered by Breitling for a while.

I know these are specific questions and they may be hard to answer which is fine. I am just trying to make the most informed decision possible as both watches have pros and cons.



Advice in the FAQs (#2 here - http://www.breitlingsource.com/articles_faq.shtml#8) is to check completed listings on eBay and to check places like Chrono24. There are currently more than 70 returns for 'Breitling Aerospace' on Chrono 24 so plenty of reference pieces to help you out (remembering that many are dealer asking prices) - http://www.chrono24.com/en/breitling/ae ... earch=true

Ultimately buying a watch is a personal decision that should be driven as much by emotion as anything else, you can't (or shouldn't) be deciding on a watch based on purely logical choices or the vox pop.


Thanks for the info. I've looked through Chrono24 before but the prices are way higher than Aerospaces that have been sold on here (from a couple years ago even). That's a good point about this being an emotional decision. I tend to be very logical in my decisions and not let emotion influence me too much but maybe that is the wrong way of thinking for a high end watch. Going to Tourneau either day or in a couple days and hopefully will pick up something.


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Aerospace10 wrote:
I've looked through Chrono24 before but the prices are way higher than Aerospaces that have been sold on here (from a couple years ago even).


Of course - dealer asking price vs. private individual sale. Ultimately Chrono24 is a better like for like comparison with Tourneau than a forum sale.


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