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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:46 pm 
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What they need is to take the bb and put an inhiuse movent in it without changing anything else I'd be more than happy with that or a navi worl. Same deal bo1 nonother chnage please don't fck up models we like just put a breitling movt in it


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I get the fact that Breitling is trying to bring people into the brand, but now we are going ot be at what 13,000 Blacksteels? Clearly they sell, but if the market is rushing towards blacksteel why isn't everyone else jumping on the bandwagon.

Heck, even if you are determined to do DLC then there are other colours available, and surely if you want to bring new people to the brand then there are other options - ceramic, tantalum, etc as well as the in house movements. The B01 was a little bit love it / hate it, but it shows that they can be innovative, but regurgitating the same thing over and over shows a distinct lack of imagination, and maybe more worryingly I don't see how it fits into an overall strategy.

I feel like Breitling have lost their way.


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I would love to see Breitling utilize tungsten carbide.


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Yup.

Driver8 wrote:
Iantheklutz wrote:
Jefferson wrote:

Yes it might be a lazy way to introduce new models.....


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I think this is the point people are upset about. It shows a lack of ingenuity and the sense of "Just slap some DLC on a model to make the hoi polloi happy."

It's a "nice" option for those who'd like it, but just seems half-assed.

:yeahthat exactly. I know we shouldn't get worked up about it because it's not like it's our company or anything :lol: , and yes people are right when they say if we don't like them, then don't buy them. BUT........

Personally I've loved Breitling watches for well over a decade, and literally drooled over each new Chronolog every single year waiting to see what new and fantastic model they'd dreamt up....... until about a year or so ago. The vast majority of new Breitling models over recent years have left me a little underwhelmed. In fact, I think the last new model that totally wowed me was the Navi World, and that came out in 2005! :shock: That's not to say I've not liked some of the new models since then, but nothing has wowed me enough to make me want to buy one of them.

For the longest time I was waiting for an in-house movement from Breitling, so I was waiting with baited breath for the B01 to arrive. And when it did I was a little underwhelmed yet again, purely due to the fact that it doesn't seem to offer anything particularly ground breaking. It's been said before, but the B01 is more of an evolution than a revolution. However, I was still planning to buy one immediately........ until I saw the B01 Chronomat bezel, and that was that. :?

Now going back to the original topic, I'm personally a bit irritated by all this Blacksteel preoccupation that Breitling seem to have become stuck in, because it shows a real lack of forward thinking and innovation IMHO. The first BS AS was something different and while the surface coating put me off buying one, I really liked the look of it. (If it had been made of ceramic I'd have snapped one up long ago). But now we are going to have SIX blacksteel models in the range, all with red accents and on rubber straps. To me it just shows the direction Breitling is going in - i.e. away from the innovation and forward thinking approach that always kept my interest in them. Don't get me wrong, this BS BB is not a bad looking watch - far from it in fact. Just like all the other BS pieces, it's a damn good looking piece. It's just that we've seen it all before.

In all honesty, Breitling aren't currently in my thinking with regards to where my watch collection is going to go, and that saddens me a little because I genuinely have an affection for the brand. Of course if a decent looking B01 equiped model ever turns up (no offense to any B01 Chronomat owners - this is just my opinion), then of course I will snap one up, but in the meantime my Breitling collection will either stay the same or get smaller, because it certainly won't be getting any bigger. :cry:

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new BS Avenger Superquartz that Davey posted about yesterday

I believe Davey saw a SWCBS, not a ASBS SQ.
It would be just too much.


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I just dont understand this thought process (from Breitling). First they "degraded" the blackbird model by offering it in a polished finish (sorry polished owners), but the fact that the Blackbird had ALWAYS been brushed means that it stood out among other Brietlings. You want a polished big date Breitling, get a Crosswind Special.

Now by DLCing the Blackbird (among every other model) it truely shows that Breitlings R&D and marketing department is void of any new idea. I'm not saying that the blacksteels arent cool looking, they are, but this is getting a little rediculous. Not to meantion the inability of a field "touch up" if the finish gets dinged).

How about a completely new model, Breitling???? Is that really too much to ask? (well that and a normal B01 bezel)

I am seriously getting turned off by the recent decisions of my favorite brand.... :(

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Uh, puhlease!


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Sorry Sharkman, I dont feel the same way. I believe they ruined the whole look of the Blackbird by making it shiney. It was supposed to be symbolic of the SR-71 Blackbird and a brushed finish with the black dial was a perfect fit. I cant imagine a shiney SR-71!!!

But this is just my opinion. I will most likely buy a Blackbird, (when I find a great deal on a used one) but I wouldnt buy a polished one if it was 1/2 off. And while I think the Blacksteel Blackbird is a good looking watch and goes with the SR-71 theme, I think that Breitling is getting out of hand with all the Blacksteel models. At this pace, we can expect to see a Blacksteel Navi World and a Blacksteel Motors T, befor too much longer. Plating the existing line is far more creative than designing a new model (based on the desires and request of the EXISTING Breitling consumers).

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I think the above two posts by Broncosport and Sharkman typifies the argument here. Each of us has his own opinion of what looks good on a particular watch. Personally I'm in the polished Blackbird camp however before the polished version came out I wanted the brushed. Now I am a polished fan and while I still think the brushed version looks good I absolutely lust after a polished bird. I think that all Breitilng is doing is simply offering different versions of popular models in blacksteel. AFAIK they haven't discontinued any models in favor of the blacksteels. I think they are just providing more choices, not necessarily changing anything, but yes quite possibly stepping on tradition and certainly showing a lack of ingeunity.


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I am new to the forum but I have been following Breitling for a few years, I just like their styles/designs.

This blacksteel thing sure has hit a nerve(s). I understand most eveyone's worries(?) about this though. After reading the posts it sounds to me like we are afraid of Breitling giving up on or losing their development/ingenuity of new products. I do have one question though. Does Breitling usually let out or go public with all their new "stuff" just before Basel show? What if the blacksteel stuff is just a "teaser" or preview to better things ahead at Basel? (Maybe? Wishful thinking?) You guys have more pre-basel experience than I do.

I think I will wait to see what happens in March, not giving up them yet!
Hoping for the best, have a good weekend. Thanks. (PS- go USA hockey! ha!)

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Kodiak wrote:
I am new to the forum but I have been following Breitling for a few years, I just like their styles/designs.

This blacksteel thing sure has hit a nerve(s). I understand most eveyone's worries(?) about this though. After reading the posts it sounds to me like we are afraid of Breitling giving up on or losing their development/ingenuity of new products. I do have one question though. Does Breitling usually let out or go public with all their new "stuff" just before Basel show? What if the blacksteel stuff is just a "teaser" or preview to better things ahead at Basel? (Maybe? Wishful thinking?) You guys have more pre-basel experience than I do.

I think I will wait to see what happens in March, not giving up them yet!
Hoping for the best, have a good weekend. Thanks. (PS- go USA hockey! ha!)


The 125th Anniversary Navi was announced last year pre Basel, as a teaser I guess. Only one significant announcement at Basel - the Chronomat B01 (everyone knew that the in house movement was coming), and then a few minor announcements - special editions of the Chronomat and then Raven versions of some watches and the Speed versions in the Bentley range. Then some post Basel announcements with the SOHC LE.

Most companies will have major announcements at Basel, but outside of the B01 I don't remember the last 'major' announcement from Breitling.


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BroncoSport, different taste is what makes the world go round, eh?

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I believe they ruined the whole look of the Blackbird by making it shiney. It was supposed to be symbolic of the SR-71 Blackbird and a brushed finish with the black dial was a perfect fit. I cant imagine a shiney SR-71!!!



I'd agree if it came with swept back wings, but mine is wingless. :D

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sharkman wrote:
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Uh, puhlease!


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That is SHARP! :drool:

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I agree with BroncoSport, the Blackbird is at it's best in brushed finish, and I sure wish I had one in my collection.

However, I really like the Blacksteel. When the Skyland BS came out I eventually bought one, had problems with it and then had it exchanged towards my Navitimer World.

In the back of my mind was always a little regret about not having one. Then the Super Avenger BS surfaced and I was hit with a wave of emotions, firstly I didn't like it, it made the whole Blacksteel thing no longer exclusive. Then I saw one in the flesh and loved it, it truly is a stunning watch in reality (as was the AS BS).

For me it has stood up well although I confess it's not a daily wearer, but it has been knocked and hasn't marked. Although I have bought some aftermarket black/red stitch straps, I actually prefer it on the Diver Pro.

Whenever I wear it, I continually look at it, it is a striking combination.

But, now with at least 2 (potentially 3) other 'Limited Edition' Blacksteel models out or on the horizon, that emotion of non-exclusivity is pouring back!

As for the Blackbird Blacksteel, definitely a thumbs down from me.

I'm beginning to think I should trade my Super Avenger Black Steel for a brushed Blackbird in protest, and that saddens me.

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bnewbie wrote:
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new BS Avenger Superquartz that Davey posted about yesterday

I believe Davey saw a SWCBS, not a ASBS SQ.
It would be just too much.

I got the impression from the other thread that that it was a different one to the SWCBS......

I agree yet another one would be too much, but if this thread shows anything, it's that NOTHING is too much from Breitling when it comes to Blacksteel!

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