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There a re a lot of abreviations on here about watches and watch related things. I usually know them but sometimes I'm thrown for a loop. And to the uninitiated it can be quite daunting trying to figure out what something stands for. I would like to propose there should be a post with abreviations and the definitions. It could be put at the beginning of the general watch discusion board like the "how to post pics" post is.

I know there might be a post out there already so let me know if there is. Thanks.

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SA Blue Dial Silver Subs Pro 2

That's a good idea!

I don't mind pulling that together - let's just get a list of the abbreviations / acronyms and I'll create an overall post with those and the meanings.

I can think of more acronyms than abbreviations so I'll start:

WIS
AD
SS
TT
YG
WG
RG
DB

Then there are the models:

SA
SOH
SOHC
EM
BB

etc

What else do you want covered?????

SABS
ASBS
(the blacksteels)

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Chronomat, Steel/Gold, MOP Dial, 2-tone band (2008)
Super Avenger Black Baton Dial (2009)
Bentley B04 GMT Silver Dial (2013)
Avenger Blacksteel Baton Dial (2014)

Good idea. A few more I can think of for the list

AR
COSC
WUS
TZ/TZ-UK
BUSA
BUK
DLC
PVD
LE
SE
SQ
SOSF
ASCBS
M1
QP
ETA 7750

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Most of these I don't know (about half)

Roff: Thanks for taking the initiative to take on this project and thank you to everyone else who will no doubt contribute.

I'm sure a lot of members will benefit from this.

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SA Blue Dial Silver Subs Pro 2

awesome idea!
I've been wondering what WIS is!

I would add:

SOHCLE
OHPF
TTT
OVNO

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Omega21

Us newbie WIS are going to love this. Thanks so much, great idea from the jersey shore!

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Current collection: Breitling Superocean Heritage I 46, Rolex Submariner, Swatch X ****** Sistem51

Great idea! I'm a complete noob too & have trouble understanding many of these cryptic terms.

OP (didn't come across this ever 5 years in the Hummer forums)
RRP/MSRP etc (I'm only familiar w MSRP actually...)
O**O (**=Very Near/Best/Reasonable/Close & all other combinations thereof)
WTB/WTS/FSOT/FT etc (for the sake of completeness)

Also, how about adding a simple diagram of some common watch movmnts that u guys always talk abt? Bridge, mainspring, slip clutch, hairspring, etc.

Thanks mods!

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a few Pams...

You can also add in some of the sayings as well as the Abreviations, such as Beater, Flip, Grail, Keeper. And what about the grading system? People see and say 95% how about this -

LNIB

A pre-owned watch that has been worn, yet is in perfect condition. Accompanied by the factory box(es), tags and documentation. No alterations from factory-delivered condition. The warranty papers must be stamped to establish the authenticity and validity of the watch - TimeZone does not allow sales of watches with "open papers." No bracelet resizing or marks of any kind. 100%

Mint

A pre-owned watch that is in very nearly perfect condition. Signs of wear are visible with a low powered loupe. May be a watch that is in LNIB condition but not accompanied by the factory box(es) or documentation. May refer to an older watch that has been restored, so long as the restoration returned the watch to very nearly perfect factory original condition. Working perfectly, keeping excellent time, needs nothing. 98-100%

Near Mint

Showing very light signs of wear. Faint scratches on the case, bezel, bracelet or buckle are visible to the naked eye. Completely original in every way. Strap shows light use - may be bent or lightly creased, but not stained. Bracelet may be resized. The watch is working perfectly, keeping very good time and needs nothing. 93-97%

Excellent

Evidence of use is visible to the unaided eye. Scratches are light, but more numerous than "near mint". If the watch has been restored, all original replacement parts have been used. Strap clearly used but no stains. No dents or dings are detectable, and the bracelet has little wear. Working perfectly, needs no repair or service. 88-92%

Very good

The watch shows what might be considered normal wear by a careful owner who wore the watch regularly. Scratches are evident, but no nicks or dings. May have replacement parts and/or a high quality redial. Running and keeping good time, though may need minor regulation. A sound, attractive presentation overall. 83-87%

Good

Nothing fundamentally wrong with the watch, though it has quite obviously been used. Running and wearable, but may gain or lose a few minutes over 24 hours. Case may show a few dings, nicks, or deep scratches. May have a redial that is not up to high standards. May not have all original parts. 77-82%

Fair

Well used, may require service and/or restoration to be useable. May be running erratically. Dial, case, and other major components may not be original, but no pieces are missing. Even an untrained eye could tell the watch is worse for wear. Some might call it rough. 72-76%

Poor

Shows abuse, requires service and/or restoration. May have major cosmetic flaws, missing parts, may not run at all. A speculative piece - 'fixer-upper' would be too generous. Not junk, but requires lots of work to be made wearable. 66-71%

Scrap / Parts

A collection of parts that at one time may have been a functioning timekeeper. Now missing parts, may be rusted or corroded, not worth restoring. Most people would call it junk. 64% or worse.

Your watch description must expressly state one of the grades set out above, or an intermediate grade. If your watch does not fall precisely into one of the grades, you may use an intermediate indication such as "Good +" and provide a description of why an intermediate grade was used, for example "cosmetically rough, but just received a full mechanical overhaul, new strap, and runs perfectly."

Oh and you have

NOS
WABI
WLTT

Some of the above answered

710
Wife or girlfriend

Bump
Blank post to bring a topic up to the top of a forum

AD
Authorized Dealer

AFAIK
As far as I know

Beater
Daily wearer

BNIB
Brand new in box

FFS
For F*ck Sake

Flipper
Frequent SC user

FSOT
For Sale Or Trade

Grail
Your must have watch

HAGWE
Have A Good/Great Weekend!

IIRC
If I remember correctly

IMHO
In my humble opinion

Keeper
Watch you intend on keeping

LMAO
Laugh my ass off

Lol
Laugh out loud / lots of laughter

MM
Marine Militaire or Marine Master

NOS
New Old Stock

OHPF
On hold, pending funds

OT
Off Topic / Or Trade (as in For Sale Or Trade - FSOT)

PAM
Officine Panerai Watch

PO
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean

RMSD
Royal Mail Special Delivery

SC
Sales Corner

SD
Rolex Sea-Dweller or Seiko Spring Drive

Seiko OM
Seiko Orange Monster

SO
Breitling Super Ocean

Wabi
Japanese concept wabi-sabi, beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete" (according to Leonard Koren in his book Wabi-Sabi: for Artists, Designers, Poets and Philosophers). Also as an acronym, Worn And Broken In, used to describe watches with marks related to age and use.

WHY
What Have You

WIS
Watch Idiot Savant
Something that almost all savants have in common is a prodigious memory of a special type
An idiot savant is a person with both autism and savant skills. Idiot savants may have mental abilities called splinter skills. The term idiot savant was first used to describe the condition in 1887 by Dr. John Langdon Down.

WLTT
Would Like To Trade

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Oh, BTW Taffy, that was a great start in your earlier thread at answering the abreviations questions for the noobs.

(And for those who don't know, "BTW" is "by the way". )

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Driver8

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Cheers Driverm8, I think the % description is also useful to use when selling, some peoples MINT condition is some one elses GOOD, at least if we use this we all have a definate scale to work from.

Mart

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Conus

Stands for "Continental USA"

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Driver8

Site Moderator

This is starting to sound like two separate threads - one with abbreviations / acronyms and another as a pricing guide (which amy also include sales specific acronyms).

It's a long weekend in Ontario so I'll try and get something prepped and up by Monday.