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Author:  mikepor21 [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:29 pm ]
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any questions i should ask? thanks

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breitling-Stain ... 2684wt_974

Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:53 pm ]
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I'm on a phone so not the best pics but it's a weird one. The 11 tick mark appears to be missing in the 12 o'clock sundial which is generally an indicator of the v1 fake, but the date font looks OK to me.

Author:  BoneDoc [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:13 pm ]
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Roffensian wrote:
I'm on a phone so not the best pics but it's a weird one. The 11 tick mark appears to be missing in the 12 o'clock sundial which is generally an indicator of the v1 fake, but the date font looks OK to me.

I think the tick is there in later pics Roff. The date font has always been my clue (Bnewbie, as always, gets full credit for that) and it looks fine as you said. Aggressively priced though. (Not in our sale section so that is legal to declare I think)

Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:25 pm ]
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Well now that I'm on a laptop I'm still not seeing an 11 tick on any of the photos.

Author:  mikepor21 [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:32 pm ]
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whats the date tick lol?

Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:07 pm ]
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As I said in my first post (well almost, autocorrect did me in) there should be a tick at 11 in the subdial at 12 o'clock, and as far as I am concerned, there isn't.

Author:  mikepor21 [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:10 pm ]
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by tick do you mean the white square above each roman numeral? I see a white square above the 11. i have the breitling catalog with that watch in it, trying to figure out what the tick means.

Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:21 pm ]
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There is no minute marker for 11 in the 12 o'clock subdial, not sure how else to say it. The number 10 is followed by a gap, then three small white lines (ticks) and a larger white line representing 15.

Author:  mikepor21 [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:37 pm ]
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ok i understand now- but there is no tick either for 21, and i have the catalog open i believe its 2011 for that exact watch and the picture in the booklet doesnt show a tick at 11 or 21 either?

Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:14 pm ]
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Well catalogue pictures are renderings so that's no help. I don't care about the 21 indicator, but the absence of a tick at 11 is a known problem with the version 1 fake. However, that also had a bad date font which this doesn't have. Virtually every dial combo of the Evo had a different combination of features, and this combo isn't in Sharkmouth's excellent list of variations, but I have never seen one with the missing tick. I can't see anything else wrong with it, but that bothers me.

You asked for opinions, you've got the best that I have.

Author:  ade113 [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:47 pm ]
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I think this one is ok. I think there is no 11 or 21 min tick mark on the top sub of the Roman dial variant.
Here is a ref pic of a genuine from Blowers:
http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/imag ... S12915.htm

I think the box is iffy. If its a real box, its about 10 years older than the watch

Author:  mikepor21 [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:58 pm ]
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ok thanks, i will avoid since he claims he doesnt have any papers

Author:  bnewbie [ Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:37 am ]
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It's real to me.
Romans don't have 11th minute tick.

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