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Bought this B13 confirmation of replica movement and dial?
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Author:  fordystar [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:19 am ]
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So angry at myself, bought this movement and dial off ebay to replace in an old super avenger i have picked up with a few issues, im yet to recieve movement and pretty sure its a non sender,double dang!, on closer inspection it is not even a super avenger dial as listed and check out the blue screws, also seller listed as NEW WITHOUT TAGS then states removed from a 2011 super avenger, lesson learnt dont rush into things!!read carefully!
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Any help would be great guys and thanks maybe i could show these to ebay customer support.
Author:  ade113 [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:27 am ]
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Do you have a photo of the other half of the movement?. I can usually spot a clone B13 / Valjoux 7750 from the chrono cam, which is obscured by teh counterweight in this photo
Author:  fordystar [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:31 am ]
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no sorry, all i have heres listing
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/movement-brei ... true&rt=nc
Author:  Roffensian [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:32 am ]
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I can't tell from that photo about the movement, would need much better photos, and even then if it is a Swiss 7750 then no way of knowing if it is generic or Breitling specific. In addition to Adrian's point on the cam the edges of the plates are usually a giveaway for Chinese, but can't tell from those shots.

Dial looks like a baton Avenger and I don't see anything obviously wrong with it.
Author:  fordystar [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:46 am ]
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yeah thinking its the newer of the rep skyland avenger dials, sticks look off to me in line with lume dots, but definatly not a super avenger dial, if it arrives ill deffo put some more pics up.
cheers guys anyone confirm dial?
Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:26 am ]
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not my area, have never really looked at the replica movements, but according to a WUS post this is a fake.

post claims that the Côtes de Genève finish on the rotor of the China replicas is different from the original, hope someone can verify this, this would be a very easy "tell" ?

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Author:  Roffensian [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:31 am ]
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Don't know if that is always the case, but look at the plates and bridges underneath the rotor - the finish on the Chinese pieces is far less refined and the edges are not finished.
Author:  fordystar [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:16 am ]
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cheers all. thanks for inputs here, really good stuff.
Author:  fordystar [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:27 am ]
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main thing thats throwing me is the blue screws, i have never seen them in any b13, but always see them in chinese 7750s
Author:  Roffensian [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:11 am ]
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fordystar wrote:
main thing thats throwing me is the blue screws, i have never seen them in any b13, but always see them in chinese 7750s



There is a blued screw version available, see here - http://www.ofrei.com/page240.html. No idea if Breitling uses it, but it's not a sign of a fake.
Author:  fordystar [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:15 am ]
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Roffensian wrote:
fordystar wrote:
main thing thats throwing me is the blue screws, i have never seen them in any b13, but always see them in chinese 7750s



There is a blued screw version available, see here - http://www.ofrei.com/page240.html. No idea if Breitling uses it, but it's not a sign of a fake.


Meant on the b13, i know there just a steroided version of a 7750 but this guy sold this to me saying it was taken out of a 2011 super avenger, never seen breitling use blue screws,im no expert could be completely wrong.
Author:  Roffensian [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:27 am ]
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fordystar wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
fordystar wrote:
main thing thats throwing me is the blue screws, i have never seen them in any b13, but always see them in chinese 7750s



There is a blued screw version available, see here - http://www.ofrei.com/page240.html. No idea if Breitling uses it, but it's not a sign of a fake.


Meant on the b13, i know there just a steroided version of a 7750 but this guy sold this to me saying it was taken out of a 2011 super avenger, never seen breitling use blue screws,im no expert could be completely wrong.



To the best of my knowledge screws are not replaced by Breitling so stock 7750 screws would be used. Of course, if that's incorrect Breitling could also replace regular screws with blued versions. It's a damaging process, but one way to tell with screws in hand would be to scratch them. Chinese blueing is done chemically which only treats the surface, quality Swiss blueing is a heat treatment that will make the entire screw blue.
Author:  bnewbie [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:48 pm ]
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Dial is from baton Avenger, not sure there is a rep yet.
Can't comment the movement.
Author:  Alinfrance [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:26 am ]
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All this not sure stuff would make me just claim a refund through ebay as item not as described
Author:  fordystar [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:34 am ]
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cheers to everyone for info its v interesting
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