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Author:  TakmaN [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Blackbird authentication request
Any help authenticating this Breitling Blackbird would be much appreciated. It seems to check out but I'm confused about the Breitling logo on the foldover clasp. I thought these were stamped in vs. applied?
Author:  nickzac [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
I am not sure if it is real or not, but there are numerous variations from both of my Blackbirds. The case looks ever so slightly different. I imagine different points in time can result in engravings looking a little different, but the engravings on the back and the engravings on the bezel look different, and I can't tell if the date box is a little different as well.
Author:  nickzac [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
Specifically, these two things bother me...the part of my case as shown in the picture does not have the curves on the outer portion of the pushers. Also, that 210 looks very sloppy, so I would lean on the 'not authentic' side but someone who knows more than me should be the one to say that in a more definitive manner.

edit: and if the date is not outlined with two individual white lines with a black line in between (my eyes cant tell but it does not look right) then I'll lean a little heavier..

another edit: I just saw like 10 more things that differ from mine, including the bezel screws, 9+3 markings, and chrono height
Author:  bnewbie [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
It's real, date window is not too wide and cardinals are prolonged.
Safety clasp logo looks good to me.
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
Yep, everything totally correct.
Author:  nickzac [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
bnewbie wrote:
It's real, date window is not too wide and cardinals are prolonged.
Safety clasp logo looks good to me.


So is the degree of variance in the looks of the bezel engraving and the word BLACKBIRD on the real pretty normal? (I guess perhaps they get parts from different suppliers or it depends on who's working that day?) Is that something which is common with most Breitlings?

I've uploaded mine
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
It's just changes that happen over the years to refresh the design. Casebacks are different between polished abd brushed models and have also changed over the years - quite a few topics on it.
Author:  nickzac [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
Roffensian wrote:
It's just changes that happen over the years to refresh the design. Casebacks are different between polished abd brushed models and have also changed over the years - quite a few topics on it.


Do you have any links on it? Things like "bezel changes" brings up tons of threads on how to change the actual bezel. That one appeared to be a brushed model and the 2, 1, and 0 on that are pretty different from mine, where as other numbers werent, which threw me off. Do sometimes individual numbers on a single bezel get messed up during the strike or cast?
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
Threads focus on the caseback, the bezel changes are just evolution, this watch (and your watch) are real.
Author:  nickzac [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
Roffensian wrote:
Threads focus on the caseback, the bezel changes are just evolution, this watch (and your watch) are real.


I'm not doubting you hence the original post of noting differences but not saying definitively. It is very interesting to see the variation though. I cannot find all that many threads on this, and none with side-by-side images...any search advice?
Author:  TakmaN [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
Thanks for the help all, these things are tricky. Replicas are getting way too good, it's scary. Does the replica use an Asian Valjoux 7753 vs the DD chrono module on base ETA like the real Blackbird? Or am I getting the movement mixed up.
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
TakmaN wrote:
Thanks for the help all, these things are tricky. Replicas are getting way too good, it's scary. Does the replica use an Asian Valjoux 7753 vs the DD chrono module on base ETA like the real Blackbird? Or am I getting the movement mixed up.



Blackbird uses the caliber 44 which is a 2892 with a DD module (hence the offset pushers relative to the crown), fake (I think) uses an Asian ETA clone.
Author:  nickzac [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
TakmaN wrote:
Thanks for the help all, these things are tricky. Replicas are getting way too good, it's scary. Does the replica use an Asian Valjoux 7753 vs the DD chrono module on base ETA like the real Blackbird? Or am I getting the movement mixed up.


On an off-note (and sorry for hijacking your thread) I'm not sure why but it seems the Blackbird is one of the models they clone the best...like they even do the date and logos right on some. (most claim 7750's although who knows what they may put inside of it)...like I sometimes wonder if they just take a picture of an authentic one and use that to advertise replicas.
Link to replica site removed by Roff.
Author:  nr123 [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
The depth on the real ones vs the fake of numbers on the bezel is much more defined on authentic ones than the one in your link.
Author:  nickzac [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blackbird authentication request
nr123 wrote:
The depth on the real ones vs the fake of numbers on the bezel is much more defined on authentic ones than the one in your link.

You're good :D
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