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| Author: | NetMatrix [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Hi. Can anyone advise if this is gunuine or not? A chap is selling it here in South Africa & it's the 1st Breitling I've seen with a 'plane on the case back as opposed to the normal wings. Thanks. Attachment: 133642_110301160453_06_Back.jpg Attachment: 133642_110301160600_10_Full_Front.jpg
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| Author: | JacksonStone [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
I'm not expert enough to say definitively whether it's real or not, although it looks real to my semi-educated eyes. As for the caseback, Breitling will use a different caseback sometimes for special occasions. This one looks to be commemorating Breitling's 110-year anniversary, which seems a good enough reason to put a special caseback on it. But I'll defer to those who know. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
That looks like two different watches to me. The caseback is for a perfectly correct LE of 1,994 pieces to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the modern chronomat. However, the dial is not the LE piece. |
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| Author: | JacksonStone [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Roffensian wrote: The caseback is for a perfectly correct LE of 1,994 pieces to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the modern chronomat. Oops, you're right. It does say 1984 - 1994. I thought it said 1884 - 1994. Roffensian wrote: However, the dial is not the LE piece. That I never would have known. Good thing we have experts here who do. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
LE is tought to recognise these days because a lot of the design cues became part of the regular watch - most obvious is the applied wings logo on the LE. |
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| Author: | NetMatrix [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Thanks for your input and help. The only one I've since been able to find with the same caseback is here; http://www.wanttobuyawatch.com/Breitling.htm which looks quite different. |
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| Author: | electrosound [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
NetMatrix wrote: Thanks for your input and help. The only one I've since been able to find with the same caseback is here; http://www.wanttobuyawatch.com/Breitling.htm which looks quite different. yeah that.. this is a real 1984-1994 LE edition. |
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| Author: | electrosound [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Roffensian wrote: That looks like two different watches to me. The caseback is for a perfectly correct LE of 1,994 pieces to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the modern chronomat. However, the dial is not the LE piece. YES!  btw, the watch is completely original but two different watches assembled in one. |
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| Author: | Sharkmouth [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
I thought (though could be wrong) all 13050 dials had an applied logo and curved date aperture whereas the 13048 did not have an applied logo and had a square date aperture. This has a curved date aperture but no applied logo. Maybe a transition dial. Not saying this is fake. More likely a re-dial (or Franken as electrosound says), but certainly strange. I wouldn't buy without full paperwork including re-dial work. |
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| Author: | NetMatrix [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
based on your comments I asked the seller a question about the 2 in 1 and I see the watch has vanished from the website. His ratings are very high so perhaps he was unaware??? Incidentally, we don't have eBay here in SA, but we have something almost identical. The same seller is offrering a B13048... Attachment: 133642_110301160600_10_Full_Front.jpg and Attachment: B13048_Back_02.jpg but this doesn't one come with papers either. Instead of giving up I've been having a look at this B13356 from a different seller. Attachment: B13356_front.jpg Attachment: B13356_back.jpg Attachment: Breitling Evolution.jpg Could you be so kind to advise if either of these appear to be the real thing? Thanks again. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Both are real. |
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| Author: | electrosound [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Sharkmouth wrote: I thought (though could be wrong) all 13050 dials had an applied logo and curved date aperture whereas the 13048 did not have an applied logo and had a square date aperture. This has a curved date aperture but no applied logo. Maybe a transition dial. Not saying this is fake. More likely a re-dial (or Franken as electrosound says), but certainly strange. I wouldn't buy without full paperwork including re-dial work. i have a B13050 with still not applied logo. bought in lugano AD in 1995. |
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| Author: | Sharkmouth [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Quote: Instead of giving up I've been having a look at this B13356 from a different seller.  And thanks electrosound. Learning every day! |
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| Author: | NetMatrix [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Many thanks, I purchased the B13356 with box and papers instead. Kind regards. |
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| Author: | NetMatrix [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Breitling Chronomat B13050 Fake? |
Just need a new strap/bracelet for it! |
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