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Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
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Author:  l2djae [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
Just a fair warning out to this great community. I would NOT trust member named 'autoexotika' who goes by the name of Lorenzo Calce.

He agreed to buy my Super Avenger, then he pulled numerous stunts and lies. Luckily, I never ended up sending him the watch because of my suspicions, so I wasn't scammed, but I would never deal with this guy for the following reasons:

1) He wants to pay via PayPal, but the account isn't verified and it isn't under his name. He claims it's his mother in-law.
2) He wants to pay via credit card but it's not his credit card. He claims it's his wife's card.
3) He also says he'll pay via PayPal using the "gift option" since I was weary of credit card payments because of possible chargeback. He claims this will be 100% safe for the seller. This is simply NOT true if you do your research, as well as being against PayPal rules.
3) He wants to declare a lower value for the watch for customs purposes. This is illegal.

So after I told him numerous times I cannot make a deal with him happen with all these things, he says he'll bank wire me the funds and I can ship to his "uncle" in U.S. I reluctantly agree. Then this morning, he sends me an email saying he sent the money to my account. I ask him for the Fed ID for the tracking number and he replies with this (profanity has been censored):

"I sent you ZERO
you f*cking paranoid fa*got
Next time you make me waste my time ill spit in your ugly face.
F*cking TROLL"

So this is my experience with this member. I would hesitate to do get in any transaction with this guy. Beware.
Author:  jlee5050 [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
Actually the censored version is:

"I sent you ZERO
you (bleep!) paranoid (bleep!)
Next time you make me waste my time ill spit in your ugly face.
(bleeeep!) TROLL 8) :roll:

Good call...
Author:  sharkman [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
Sounds like a reasonable fellow. :)


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Author:  AF_Rob [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
I looked at some of his posts. He apparently deals a lot in purchasing/selling watches. You would figure he would understand your concerns. I saw a lot of "removed by Roff" so apparently he has problems following rules. To me, there is never an appropriate time to say what he said. He's just a classless individual. I have a stronger opinion, but I'll keep that to myself. Sorry you had to deal with someone like that here.
Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
AF_Rob wrote:
I looked at some of his posts. He apparently deals a lot in purchasing/selling watches. You would figure he would understand your concerns. I saw a lot of "removed by Roff" so apparently he has problems following rules. To me, there is never an appropriate time to say what he said. He's just a classless individual. I have a stronger opinion, but I'll keep that to myself. Sorry you had to deal with someone like that here.


same opinion, keeps listing new sales threads that Roff has to combine, never "gives" to the forum in any way but uses us to evaluate his merchandise & to peddle his wares. find the wording of his message quite unacceptable.

not the nicest of our forum members, to put it mildly
Author:  l2djae [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
WatchFred wrote:
AF_Rob wrote:
I looked at some of his posts. He apparently deals a lot in purchasing/selling watches. You would figure he would understand your concerns. I saw a lot of "removed by Roff" so apparently he has problems following rules. To me, there is never an appropriate time to say what he said. He's just a classless individual. I have a stronger opinion, but I'll keep that to myself. Sorry you had to deal with someone like that here.


same opinion, keeps listing new sales threads that Roff has to combine, never "gives" to the forum in any way but uses us to evaluate his merchandise & to peddle his wares. find the wording of his message quite unacceptable.

not the nicest of our forum members, to put it mildly


Hey guys, thanks for all of your feedback/input. I strongly agree with all of you guys when you say that he's a classless individual who doesn't "give" to the forum, but just takes for his own gain only. He may or may not be a scam artist, but he has questionable characteristics and I would not deal with him again. And I'm actually getting negative feedback from others as well; just Google his name.

To be fair, I don't have as high post count as many of you guys and can't contribute as much since I still consider myself a newbie to this wonderful world of watches. But I always respect the members and opinions of this forum. There's a strong sense of community on this forum and I really appreciate that. Thank you all.
Author:  Ara2200 [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
I sold him white super avenger dial through PayPal, I hope he doesn't cause any trouble, lorenzo@autoexotika.ca
he claimed his PayPal account is his wife's.
Author:  autoexotika [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
Ara2200 wrote:
I sold him white super avenger dial through PayPal, I hope he doesn't cause any trouble, lorenzo@autoexotika.ca
he claimed his PayPal account is his wife's.



what trouble ? Its a verified paypal account.

I hope the DIAL is real and not fake.

Also I was supposed to buy the Super avenger from L2jae
I sent him the money he didnt want to go though with the transaction and i need it as a gift. I Toook his over other ppl that were offered one for sale and HE screwed me over.

no big deal i found one locally.
And i have sent out a few straps to other members on this board Im sure as soon as they get them they will post feedback
Author:  Ara2200 [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
no problem man the dial is not fake, I am just concerned I had several dishonest buyers on eBay trying to cause trouble they ruined my account I spent three hours with eBay last night

I am just worried, nothing negative toward you.
Author:  autoexotika [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
no worries.. ill wait for the Dial.Thanks
Author:  autoexotika [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
And you ALSo agreed to lower the value and Agreed to everything then you disparaged after I sent you the money and I also sent you picture ID ...


and as u can see in my for sale Threads i bought another super avenger locally. So i did not Lie about anything
lol I sent you 3200 bucks and u didnt send me the watch thats the bottom line.
Author:  Ara2200 [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
Lorenzo lets do business again, smooth transaction all is well. Confirmed PayPal address. Overall positive experience.

Thank you for your purchase.
Author:  dan_t [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Don't trust this guy - autoexotika
See my other post about a positive experience.

My transaction went smoothly enough considering that we're at opposite ends of the planet!

I would deal with autoexotika again.

Dan
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