The Breitling Watch Source Forums

Breitling Watch Information Forums, Navitimer, Chronomat
It is currently Sat May 03, 2025 4:26 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:44 am 
Offline
Breitling Fanatic
Breitling Fanatic

Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:12 pm
Posts: 194
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: Raleigh, NC
Anyone done business with AW? curious if there are any issues. I have heard of warranty problems in the past.
It seems like they have increased the number of models and watches they have or can get. I was thinking of buying one..

Really would appreciate any relevant comments.
thanks


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:55 am 
Offline
All Roads lead to Breitling
All Roads lead to Breitling
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:01 pm
Posts: 8010
Likes: 3 posts
Liked in: 33 posts
kuretime wrote:
Anyone done business with AW? curious if there are any issues. I have heard of warranty problems in the past.
It seems like they have increased the number of models and watches they have or can get. I was thinking of buying one..

Really would appreciate any relevant comments.
thanks



The vast majority of pieces I have looked at on the site can be had at ADs for equal or greater discounts. Why buy a gray market watch if you can get it from an AD with a real warranty? And yes I've heard stories of warrant service issues. Not enough to draw any conclusions - no one post about their good experiences, just the bad ones.

If they have recently added more watches it is becuase it's that time of year. ADs are getting ready for the influx of new models.

_________________
SHARKMAN


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:47 am 
Offline
Breitling Enthusiast
Breitling Enthusiast

Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:05 pm
Posts: 14
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: New York, NY
I've used them twice, once for myself (my Colt GMT) and once for a gift (Tag Link). Now I wasn't too worried about the warranty because 1) I was buying entry level watches and 2) I figured the money I saved was worth the bet that I wouldn't need to rely on their warranty. So here's what I got:

No issues with the Tag Link.

I love my Colt as it was my first nice watch and it was an engagement present from my wife. But AW listed the bracelet as a Professional II (it was really a Professional) and the serial number on the watch does not match the certificate. On the first point, after being a bit concerned about the bracelet, I realized that the brushed look was WAY better for me as this is mainly my all around casual and dress watch. On the second point, well, this is an engagement gift from my wife and I love it. I will never part with it EVER so I don't care that my papers aren't in order. So now you know some things to look out for not that my experience is necessarily the norm.

I just bought a pre-owned Cockpit (not from AW) and can really care less about a warranty. For the most part, I believe you shouldn't stretch to buy your watch and should be able to cover the cost of any issues that may arise. (For example, don't buy a yacht if you can't afford the maintenance.) I only care if that I'm getting the authentic piece, with the look I want, at the right price.

Hope this helps.

sterling

_________________
Colt GMT w/blue dial
Cockpit two-tone w/silver dial
Chronomat 41 w/brown dial???????


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:16 am 
Offline
Cult of Breitling Leader
Cult of Breitling Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:34 pm
Posts: 3405
Likes: 27 posts
Liked in: 9 posts
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
kuretime wrote:
I have heard of warranty problems in the past.

I'm guessing you mean AW's warranty, since the manufacturer's warranty won't be valid if you buy through AW. I'm with Sharky on this one - why go gray when you can get most of the same watches through an AD for the same discount?

sterling wrote:
I only care if that I'm getting the authentic piece, with the look I want, at the right price.

If you're happy with your purchases, that's the important thing. To me, though, going through an AD is more than just about the warranty or papers. It also ensures the distribution channel is "pure," and that watch I'm buying hasn't been returned, refurbished, or otherwise messed with. Just because a watch is genuine doesn't mean it's in factory-new shape. The problem with gray market sellers is you never know where the watch has been.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:17 pm 
Offline
All Roads lead to Breitling
All Roads lead to Breitling
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:01 pm
Posts: 8010
Likes: 3 posts
Liked in: 33 posts
Quote:
Now I wasn't too worried about the warranty because 1) I was buying entry level watches and 2) I figured the money I saved was worth the bet that I wouldn't need to rely on their warranty


If there was a meaningful savings I could see it, but I don’t get this since I have purchased 2 Colt Automatics from my local ADs and paid essentially the same after sales tax as they go for on authenticwatches.com. And I had the pleasant experience of browsing other models in the metal. Not to mention leaving with the watch on my wrist. Knock off sales tax from an out of state AD and it makes NO sense to buy from AW – at least for the piece mentioned.

Quote:
But AW listed the bracelet as a Professional II (it was really a Professional) and the serial number on the watch does not match the certificate. On the first point, after being a bit concerned about the bracelet, I realized that the brushed look was WAY better for me


You are fortunate you like the bracelet you got, but you didn’t get the full time piece you ordered. That suggests serious potential problems for others. Mate, they didn’t deliver the watch you paid for whether you like it better or not. It could have been a major headache and that is unacceptable.

Quote:
…can really care less about a warranty. For the most part, I believe you shouldn't stretch to buy your watch and should be able to cover the cost of any issues that may arise. (For example, don't buy a yacht if you can't afford the maintenance.)


Forgive me but that’s one of the silliest things I’ve read. First, it escapes me why anyone wouldn’t prefer to have a warranty. Second, If I am buying a $2000 watch, $10,000 time piece, or $950,000 yacht, I want a warranty to ensure against QC issues or defects. When I get around to the next trip to my BMW dealer and he tells me about the factory warranty, I guess I should tell him, “No! I don’t need no stinkin’ warranty! I can afford to get it fixed – It’s not like it’s a yacht for Pete’s sake.”

_________________
SHARKMAN


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:46 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:37 am
Posts: 3785
Likes: 1 post
Liked in: 20 posts
Location: USA
sterling wrote:

I just bought a pre-owned Cockpit (not from AW) and can really care less about a warranty. For the most part, I believe you shouldn't stretch to buy your watch and should be able to cover the cost of any issues that may arise. (For example, don't buy a yacht if you can't afford the maintenance.) I only care if that I'm getting the authentic piece, with the look I want, at the right price.

Hope this helps.

sterling


That's beyond silly but in the effort to not have countdickula call for my banning i'll be nice. Your comment makes absolutely no sense...why have car insurance, home owners insurance, or health insurance.....warranties are a temporary insurance which give you peace of mind; repairs can get very costly!

I have no experience with AW but their prices aren't much better than you can get at an AD like others have already said. Their accessories, straps/bracelets are extremely extremely overpriced, way above retail price actually.

_________________
"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:16 pm 
Offline
Breitling Enthusiast
Breitling Enthusiast

Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:05 pm
Posts: 14
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: New York, NY
sharkman wrote:
If there was a meaningful savings I could see it, but I don’t get this since I have purchased 2 Colt Automatics from my local ADs and paid essentially the same after sales tax as they go for on authenticwatches.com.


For me, in NYC, and as a first watch purchase with no experience with any AD at the time, it happened to result in meaningful savings. I wouldn't expect this is the case for everyone.

sharkman wrote:
You are fortunate you like the bracelet you got, but you didn’t get the full time piece you ordered.


This is true, and I was pointing out the experience I had with AW for the benefit of the questioner. Good thing I am explaining what happened so if this prospective buyer thinks like you, they won't buy from AW. I did talk to AW about this at the time and they apologized and offered to replace the watch I received. I told them I would look at the watch with the Pro II elsewhere and make up my mind. They were cool about it and I'm not sure I'm remembering everything right but I think they even knocked a bit more off the price. However, I'm just pointing out what happened with my experience and why it didn't matter to me. I'm not you or Kuretime.

sharkman wrote:
First, it escapes me why anyone wouldn’t prefer to have a warranty.


Wow, talk about reading comprehension. Where did I say I preferred to not have a warranty? AW gives you a 3 year warranty versus the 2 years you get from Breitling. After that you're on your own as with any other purchase. I'm simply talking about cost benefit analysis. I'm ok taking the bet to pay less for a 3 year AW warranty versus a Breitling 2 year warranty and pay the difference in cost if need be. Call it acceptable odds to someone who at the time was more concerned with saving his fiance some dough and dealing with the consequences otherwise.

Jeez, I thought I was candidly helping someone out with a decision to buy from AW. Obviously, I mentioned the things that went wrong and that since I was not a picky buyer, it didn't bother me. I am a very happy owner of an authentic Colt GMT that I know we got a deal on.

Why are you attacking me? Cranky much?

_________________
Colt GMT w/blue dial
Cockpit two-tone w/silver dial
Chronomat 41 w/brown dial???????


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:25 pm 
Offline
All Roads lead to Breitling
All Roads lead to Breitling
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:01 pm
Posts: 8010
Likes: 3 posts
Liked in: 33 posts
I'm not attacking you at all - I'm suggesting it is silly to posit a 3 year gray market warranty stacks up with a 2 year factory warranty.

And if you read the paragraph about warranties in my post, you'll see I was referring to FACTORY warranties explicitly (stated) as well as implicilty (because we KNOW AW gives their own warranty).


Mostly though the experience of someone getting a watch on the wrong bracelet would be sufficient to keep me away from AW. I think it may have been Driver who paid 5 figures to them for a watch they didn't even have access to. They worked it out on another piece, but his experience and yours gives pause. Significant pause,

Cranky? No. You?

_________________
SHARKMAN


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:28 pm 
Offline
Breitling Enthusiast
Breitling Enthusiast

Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:05 pm
Posts: 14
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: New York, NY
[quote="sharkman"]I'm not attacking you at all - I'm suggesting it is silly to posit a 3 year gray market warranty stacks up with a 2 year factory warranty.

I wasn't positing that at all. Is that what I said?

_________________
Colt GMT w/blue dial
Cockpit two-tone w/silver dial
Chronomat 41 w/brown dial???????


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:33 pm 
Offline
All Roads lead to Breitling
All Roads lead to Breitling
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:01 pm
Posts: 8010
Likes: 3 posts
Liked in: 33 posts
sterling wrote:
sharkman wrote:
I'm not attacking you at all - I'm suggesting it is silly to posit a 3 year gray market warranty stacks up with a 2 year factory warranty.

I wasn't positing that at all. Is that what I said?


Last comment - you SAID you don't care less about a warranty because one should not stretch oneself to thin and should be able to pay for any repairs, etc... You said, "... really care less about a warranty. For the most part, I believe you shouldn't stretch to buy your watch and should be able to cover the cost of any issues that may arise..."

I'm not making this up, nor am I comprehensionally challenged.

OK, I'm done hijacking a valid piont thread.

_________________
SHARKMAN


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:35 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:37 am
Posts: 3785
Likes: 1 post
Liked in: 20 posts
Location: USA
:popcorn: :argue: :popcorn:

_________________
"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:36 pm 
Offline
Breitling Enthusiast
Breitling Enthusiast

Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:05 pm
Posts: 14
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: New York, NY
mfserge wrote:
sterling wrote:

I just bought a pre-owned Cockpit (not from AW) and can really care less about a warranty. For the most part, I believe you shouldn't stretch to buy your watch and should be able to cover the cost of any issues that may arise. (For example, don't buy a yacht if you can't afford the maintenance.) I only care if that I'm getting the authentic piece, with the look I want, at the right price.

sterling


That's beyond silly but in the effort to not have countdickula call for my banning i'll be nice. Your comment makes absolutely no sense...why have car insurance, home owners insurance, or health insurance.....warranties are a temporary insurance which give you peace of mind; repairs can get very costly!


I think I should have made a new paragraph after the first sentence I wrote above.

For my pre-owned watch, a warranty was not offered and I didn't care. For my Colt GMT, AW gave a 3 year warranty. Repairs can be expensive, but for the used one, that's a chance I take, and for the new one, I was covered.

Yes, it's like insurance in the sense that I was going with a cheaper plan that wouldn't cover as much and I took the bet that everything would be ok. If I wanted to be completely covered, I wouldn't have gone this route. Simple economics and it worked out for me. Period.

_________________
Colt GMT w/blue dial
Cockpit two-tone w/silver dial
Chronomat 41 w/brown dial???????


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm 
Offline
All Roads lead to Breitling
All Roads lead to Breitling
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:01 pm
Posts: 8010
Likes: 3 posts
Liked in: 33 posts
mfserge wrote:
:popcorn: :argue: :popcorn:



Oooohhhh, were's the pot calling the kettle black smilie when you need it???

_________________
SHARKMAN


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:51 pm 
Offline
Breitling Fanatic
Breitling Fanatic
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:50 am
Posts: 334
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
mfserge wrote:
That's beyond silly but in the effort to not have countdickula call for my banning i'll be nice.

Good boy...
Be nice, cause I'm reading all your posts :wink:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:05 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:37 am
Posts: 3785
Likes: 1 post
Liked in: 20 posts
Location: USA
CountDuckula wrote:
mfserge wrote:
That's beyond silly but in the effort to not have countdickula call for my banning i'll be nice.

Good boy...
Be nice, cause I'm reading all your posts :wink:


Good to know...keep an eye on then I have a good year-in review coming shortly.

_________________
"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
 




Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group