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Author:  Roffensian [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:02 am ]
Post subject:  2013/14 General Watch Competition - complete
OK, so finally getting this rolling.

We have already done brand specific competitions for Omega, Panerai, Rolex, JLC and Zenith to get down to the top four for those brands. I have also added in the top 4 from the 2013 Breitling competition for a total of 79 watches. We need to get down to 64 for the knockout portion of the competition so there are 15 'play in' match ups to get to that number. I threw the list of 79 watches at the list randomiser at random.org and the top 49 from that randomisation are already in the final 64. Those are (in the order that random.org threw out):

RGM Pennsylvania 801E
Rolex Submariner
Ulysse Nardin Maxi Marine Chrono
Seiko Grand Seiko
Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpa XL
Omega PloProf 1200m
Louis Moinet Twintech
Glashutte Original Senator Regulator Chronometer
Omega Speedmaster 9300
Sinn 756 Diapal
Girard-Perregaux World Timer Financial Chronograph
Panerai 372
Glashutte Original Panorama Date Moon Phase
Tudor Heritage Black Bay
IWC Big Pilot
A Lange & Sohne 1815
Breitling Cosmonaute Lemania SE
Omega Planet Ocean
Rolex Daytona
Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph
Parmigiani Fleurier Pershing 005
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Automatic
Breitling Navitimer 01
Concord C1
Seiko Grand Seiko Spring Drive
Bvlgari Daniel Roth Petite Seconde
Chronoswiss Grand Regulateur
JLC Master Compressor Diving Automatic Navy Seals
Rolex Datejust II
F P Journe Chronometre Bleu
Franc Vila FVa 15
Zenith Chronomaster Grande Date
Panerai 312
Vulcain Cricket X-Treme
Montblanc Nicolas Rieussec Chronograph
Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119
Zenith Pilot Big Date
IWC Portofino Hand Wound 8 Days
Cvstos Challenge-R 50 Chronograph
RGM Pennsylvania 801 ES
Breitling Transocean Chronograph 1461
Rolex GMT Master
Cartier Calibre de Cartier
JLC Master Compressor Diving Pro Geographic
Panerai 441
Omega Speedmaster Professional 145.012
Carl F Bucherer Patravi Calendar
Carl F Bucherer Patravi Traveltec GMT
Arnold & Son World Timer Skeleton

The other 30 watches are matched up in the play ins and those will be live in the Projects section - viewforum.php?f=25 within a few minutes. I randomly took numbers 50 to 79 from the random.org list and matched up 50 with 79, 51 with 78, etc. I would have adjusted to prevent two brands going head to head but that wasn't necessary. The 30 watches competing to make the final 64 are:

Zenith El Primero Striking 10th
Breitling Chronomat 769
JLC Master Ultra Thin Perpetual
Aquadive Bathyscaphe 300
Glashutte Original PanoMaticLunar
Lang & Heyne Friederich III
Hublot Big Bang Aero
Cartier Tank Louis Cartier Extra Large
Breguet Marine Big Date
Patek Philippe Aquanaut
Cartier Tank MC
IWC Portuguese Yacht Club
Bell & Ross Vintage 126 Blackbird
Roger Dubuis Easy Diver
Tudor Heritage Chronograph Blue
Doxa Sub 5000T
IWC 7 Day Portuguese
Armin Strom Blue Chip Skeleton
Bremont Supermarine
Glashutte Original Senator Perpetual Calendar
Breguet Type XX
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
Bremont MB2
Panerai 233
Piaget Emperador
Zenith El Primero Stratos Flyback
Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Lune Retrograde
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Chronograph
JLC Master Compressor Extreme W-Alarm
Devon Works Tread 1

As for the Breitling competition votes will run for a week. Please note that some of the headings of the voting threads have rather abbreviated watch names because of the character limit on thread titles in the forum software but the posts and voting options have full names and the links provided by the nominator of that watch.

Please take the time to vote, a lot of people have contributed to this so far and I would really like to see the community embrace this - we know that we aren't just Breitling fans, so let's make this a great event and end up with a worthy winner!


1st round proper is now set, the following 64 watches made it:

A Lange & Sohne 1815
Armin Strom Blue Chip Skeleton
Arnold & Son World Timer Skeleton
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Automatic
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
Breguet Type XX
Breitling Chronomat 769
Breitling Cosmonaute Lemania SE
Breitling Navitimer 01
Breitling Transocean Chronograph 1461
Bvlgari Daniel Roth Petite Seconde
Carl F Bucherer Patravi Calendar
Carl F Bucherer Patravi Traveltec GMT
Cartier Calibre de Cartier
Cartier Tank Louis Cartier Extra Large
Chronoswiss Grand Regulateur
Concord C1
Cvstos Challenge-R 50 Chronograph
F P Journe Chronometre Bleu
Franc Vila FVa 15
Girard-Perregaux World Timer Financial Chronograph
Glashutte Original PanoMaticLunar
Glashutte Original Panorama Date Moon Phase
Glashutte Original Senator Perpetual Calendar
Glashutte Original Senator Regulator Chronometer
IWC 7 Day Portuguese
IWC Big Pilot
IWC Portofino Hand Wound 8 Days
IWC Portuguese Yacht Club
JLC Master Compressor Diving Automatic Navy Seals
JLC Master Compressor Diving Pro Geographic
JLC Master Ultra Thin Perpetual
Lang & Heyne Friederich III
Louis Moinet Twintech
Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Lune Retrograde
Montblanc Nicolas Rieussec Chronograph
Omega Planet Ocean
Omega PloProf 1200m
Omega Speedmaster 9300
Omega Speedmaster Professional 145.012
Panerai 233
Panerai 312
Panerai 372
Panerai 441
Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpa XL
Parmigiani Fleurier Pershing 005
Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119
RGM Pennsylvania 801 ES
RGM Pennsylvania 801E
Rolex Datejust II
Rolex Daytona
Rolex GMT Master
Rolex Submariner
Seiko Grand Seiko
Seiko Grand Seiko Spring Drive
Sinn 756 Diapal
Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Tudor Heritage Chronograph Blue
Ulysse Nardin Maxi Marine Chrono
Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph
Vulcain Cricket X-Treme
Zenith Chronomaster Grande Date
Zenith El Primero Striking 10th
Zenith Pilot Big Date

The following were eliminated in the play in round:

Aquadive Bathyscaphe 300
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Chronograph
Bell & Ross Vintage 126 Blackbird
Breguet Marine Big Date
Bremont MB2
Bremont Supermarine
Cartier Tank MC
Devon Works Tread 1
Doxa Sub 5000T
Hublot Big Bang Aero
JLC Master Compressor Extreme W-Alarm
Patek Philippe Aquanaut
Piaget Emperador
Roger Dubuis Easy Diver
Zenith El Primero Stratos Flyback

Round 1 losers:

A Lange & Sohne 1815
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Automatic
Breguet Type XX
Bvlgari Daniel Roth Petite Seconde
Carl F Bucherer Patravi Calendar
Cartier Calibre de Cartier
Cartier Tank Louis Cartier Extra Large
Concord C1
Cvstos Challenge-R 50 Chronograph
F P Journe Chronometre Bleu
Franc Vila FVa 15
Girard-Perregaux World Timer Financial Chronograph
JLC Master Compressor Diving Automatic Navy Seals
JLC Master Compressor Diving Pro Geographic
Lang & Heyne Friederich III
Omega Planet Ocean
Omega PloProf 1200m
Panerai 233
Panerai 312
Panerai 441
Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpa XL
Parmigiani Fleurier Pershing 005
Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119
RGM Pennsylvania 801E
Rolex GMT Master
Seiko Grand Seiko
Seiko Grand Seiko Spring Drive
Sinn 756 Diapal
Tudor Heritage Black Bay
Tudor Heritage Chronograph Blue
Vulcain Cricket X-Treme
Zenith Chronomaster Grande Date

Round 2 losers:

Armin Strom Blue Chip Skeleton
Arnold & Son World Timer Skeleton
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
Breitling Chronomat 769
Breitling Transocean Chronograph 1461
Carl F Bucherer Patravi Traveltec GMT
Chronoswiss Grand Regulateur
Glashutte Original Panorama Date Moon Phase
Glashutte Original Senator Regulator Chronometer
Montblanc Nicolas Rieussec Chronograph
Omega Speedmaster 9300
RGM Pennsylvania 801 ES
Rolex Datejust II
Rolex Daytona
Ulysse Nardin Maxi Marine Chrono
Zenith El Primero Striking 10th

Round 3 losers:

Panerai 372
IWC Portuguese Yacht Club
IWC Big Pilot
Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Lune Retrograde
Glashutte Original PanoMaticLunar
Breitling Cosmonaute Lemania SE
Zenith Pilot Big Date
Louis Moinet Twintech

Quarter final losers:

Breitling Navitimer 01
Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph
Rolex Submariner
IWC Portofino Hand Wound 8 Days

Semi final losers:

IWC 7 Day Portuguese
Omega Speedmaster Professional 145.012


Winner - JLC Master Ultra Thin Perpetual
2nd place - Glashutte Original Senator Perpetual Calendar
3rd place - IWC 7 Day Portuguese
4th place - Omega Speedmaster Professional 145.012
Author:  Driver8 [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Good work as usual on this Roff. No doubt very time-consuming to set up (as these things always are), so I echo your comments about members taking a few mins to get involved.

A few tricky matchups in the play-ins - and I'm clearly out of kilter with the voting on so many of them!
Author:  Roffensian [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Driver8 wrote:
....and I'm clearly out of kilter with the voting on so many of them!


There were a few where I looked at the results and thought "seriously, did they click on the links???" Clearly we are both out of kilter!
Author:  Tim S [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Thanks Roff as always for the tremendous amount of time you've dedicated to this project. Some very nice work indeed!

Some nice match ups. I found I was in line with the majority of voters however way way off with a few, which isn't a bad thing - everyone should have a different opinion on watches. Some very close match ups too, which were very difficult to decide between.

If anyone is willing to share, I'd be interested in people's approaches to the selections. What do people look for? For me it's wearability and looks in conjunction with knowledge of the movement and brand. I try not to be too penal on brands I don't particularly favor, rather select based on merit alone. I'm very curious as to the watches that will go far in the voting and do encourage as many people as possible to vote.
Author:  Scott [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Thanks for setting this up, and I'm sure it will be an interesting exercise. I have no doubt some of my tastes are strictly my own and I'm about to find out just how much so. I'm already distraught about having to vote between the Marine Big Date and the Fifty Fathoms in a play-in round---though it appears not many others have this problem. A couple of others are bugging me a lot, but we'll see how it all plays out.
Author:  natesen [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Thanks again for your work on this, I think its a lot of fun!!

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Author:  Kodiak [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Scott wrote:
Thanks for setting this up, and I'm sure it will be an interesting exercise. I have no doubt some of my tastes are strictly my own and I'm about to find out just how much so. I'm already distraught about having to vote between the Marine Big Date and the Fifty Fathoms in a play-in round---though it appears not many others have this problem. A couple of others are bugging me a lot, but we'll see how it all plays out.

That was definitely a tough one for me also, although a few weeks ago I got to see and handle one of these two in the metal so I had to go with it (not saying which one at this time - don't want to influence the process - as if anyone would follow my tastes :lol: )

In response to Tim S, I typically voted on the basis of personal taste, wearability, and can I read the time :) . Tried not to get wrapped up in brand vs. brand and overly complicated movements although there will be a few that are just too cool/unique that win me over.

Thanks for the time and effort Roff :bow: , will make an effort to vote throughout the competition.
Author:  wessa [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Great job Roff!
My voting has been based purely on visual appeal. Which one do I prefer the look of, without much consideration to the brand, history, complications, etc...
Author:  TomP [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
wessa wrote:
Great job Roff!
My voting has been based purely on visual appeal. Which one do I prefer the look of, without much consideration to the brand, history, complications, etc...


Mine too. A straight aesthetic reaction.
Author:  Desert Hiker [ Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
wessa wrote:
Great job Roff!
My voting has been based purely on visual appeal. Which one do I prefer the look of, without much consideration to the brand, history, complications, etc...


:yeahthat ....and I have no detailed knowledge of exquisite watchworks and timepieces.

Thanks Roff, it's interesting to watch this develop.

Desert Hiker
Author:  MattC [ Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
I have been voting by which one I would buy, also considering what complications and features I would rather have. Looks has a lot to do with it as well. It helps that 90% of the nominations I have seen before browsing the web and know a little bit about. It's been fun so far, thank you Roff!


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Author:  bozman52 [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
My sincere thanks to you, Roff, for setting this up. I can only imagine how much time this takes you, but we all thoroughly enjoy the fun afterwards.
Author:  jlee5050 [ Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Thanks Roff for setting this up again. Just put in my votes as well.

A couple close ones as well, as well as some no-brainers IMO. But fun overall. Good to see some of my nominations doing well. Whoo hoo!
Author:  sharkman [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2013/14 General Watch Competition - underway
Scott wrote:
Thanks for setting this up, and I'm sure it will be an interesting exercise. I have no doubt some of my tastes are strictly my own and I'm about to find out just how much so. I'm already distraught about having to vote between the Marine Big Date and the Fifty Fathoms in a play-in round---though it appears not many others have this problem. A couple of others are bugging me a lot, but we'll see how it all plays out.



I had to go with the Breguet. I am in the distinct minority, but that's ok - the others have the right to be wrong. :lol:
Author:  rplace [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:08 am ]
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I'm about 95% going with what I think I would actually put on my wrist. I'm not nearly the WIS most of you are...love reading your posts about what/why makes something truly unique and while I can appreciate that I'm just not that well schooled in the finer points of watches. When I do happen to know there is some heritage or certain <Dr. Evil voice> I-don't-know-what</Dr. Evil voice> it helps sway my decision. But for the most part I'm looking at them and saying could I see myself putting that on and owning it, no matter the price, some just to do not sing to me. What has been great is seeing watches I did not even know existed. Take that Armin Strom Blue Chip Skeleton :drool:

Thanks for all the effort/work!
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