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Have Breguet ever made a bad watch? Some really gorgeous pieces again, not sure on the dial guilloche on the 7800, but I am sure that it will look spectacular in motion in real life.

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Indeed Roff. Some beautiful pieces. But that musical piece... Not a minute repeater? It plays a tune?

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The answer is probably no. And their "brand ambassadors" were Napoleon and Churchill.

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Scott

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Zenith Chronomaster El Primero Classic Cars
Vintage gold Corum
Rolex DJ 36 TT, oyster dial, oyster/smooth
Baume & Mercier Riviera 200m, silver dial/aquamarine bezel
Breitling Superocean 57, rose/stainless

My God!


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SHARKMAN

Nice, but without seeing them, would anyone say they were a bit delicate looking?

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Jim

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Where's the rubber and DLC version I was waiting on???

Absolutely stunning. Nothing more to say really.


Well yes they are quite "delicately" designed compared to something like a sports or tool watch, but that's kind of the point of dress pieces like that.

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I wouldn't, someone told me off for judging pieces before I had seen them in the flesh

They are dress watches, they aren't supposed to look like a Super Avenger (or indeed a Breguet Type XX / XXI / XXII).

nothing to add, well, maybe this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQriT6eUDTk

My goodness, stating the obvious. The Classique range, indeed all Breguets except the marine and type XX ranges are the consummate dress watches. One need never see one in the metal to judge it - invariably they are even more amazing in person than any photo or rendering can depict. Give me a Breguet over a Patek any day of the week and twice in Sundays. And BTW, that chrono is almost orgasmic!


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SHARKMAN

I don’t believe I told you off Roff

Besides, I am not making a technical assessment here. I am asking something completely different.

We all know it’s a dress watch, but would you really wear it? Let me rephrase; Sight unseen (as I said earlier), do you think this watch range is of a masculine or feminine DESIGN? This question is to anybody. There’s no correct answer to my question, and you don’t need a PhD to participate. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

It’s the one thing that caught my eye. The comment on ‘delicate’ is not in the detail; it’s in the design reference. Granted, hard to judge because I can’t get a handle in the size quite correctly, but I would be interested in opinions.

So, the story is; Given that you have the money to buy this one, would you really wear it to social occasions or to special anniversaries, keeping in mind that’s a wide remit for a watch to fill?

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Jim

"You have Control".

with the greatest pleasure.

It's neither "masculine" or "feminine." These are the wrong categories to consider when looking at a top time piece like a Breguet Classique. Rather it is refined elegance. And for the man of such developed taste it could easily be an everyday dress watch. It speaks discernment.

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I do.




Absolutely. Not much point in buying it otherwise.




I have no idea what that means but I absolutely think that any of these are watches that a man could wear. They are refined, elegant, understated and 'classic', and bluntly I am not sure how they could be considered anything else.




Without a shadow of a doubt I would wear it to social occasions, and no idea why it wouldn't be appropriate to.

This is becoming a very bizarre discussion

Probably all that need be said regarding P51's questions has, but the nature of the question interests me, and it may be a more common one.

We have become so accustomed to beefier looking pieces that original watch designs (with a lot of influence from Abraham Breguet) look that much more different. We all talk about how Rolex subs, for example, can be worn under a tux, and they can, but of course that never was the intent. Same thing for a Breitling Cockpit--works, but frankly unthinkable in the past. The Classique, the Vacheron Patrimony, Patek Calatrava, are the watches for a tux, a fine suit, or a dressy sweater. If by "delicate" the idea is thin, finely crafted "Breguet hands", as they are known, an ornate case and finely detailed dial, I suppose P51 is right. If you own nearly all Breitlings and favor the 44mm and larger models, this is the opposite end of the spectrum. What seems to set Breguet apart is how beautifully ornate their pieces can be, in addition to being outstanding timepieces and at least to me, watchmaking royalty. The detail makes these more than just a dress watch, and frankly a Calatrava looks plain in comparison. Anybody who considers watchmaking and design an art needs to check out a Brequet boutique. The dedicated NYC boutique ( a second one was shared with Omega) was my favorite when I hit Madison Avenue a couple years back. These are portable, functional artworks.

P51, I think that for so many people now the special or social occasions are not a wide remit anymore, and in fact the contrary. That, I think, has something to do with why Breguets, for example, may seem almost foreign. So many businesses are business casual now, black-tie dinners are fewer and fewer, and people go to nice restaurants or events in polos and chinos. Personally, I don't have many dress occasions anymore. I do like a slightly sportier piece with short sleeves, and today of course you can wear that Rolex, Breitling, IWC for dress and get away with it. Still, if I had the money to dedicate to one of these Breguets I'd probably think about it anyway. They're that special. Damn, now I'm thinking about pre-owned Breguets again.

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Scott

AP Royal Oak 15400, silver
Zenith Chronomaster El Primero Classic Cars
Vintage gold Corum
Rolex DJ 36 TT, oyster dial, oyster/smooth
Baume & Mercier Riviera 200m, silver dial/aquamarine bezel
Breitling Superocean 57, rose/stainless

Thanks Scott for your considered reply. There is a lot of thought gone into your comments and I appreciate what you think. Your comments are persuasive.

My main reason for asking an apparently bizarre question is;

I don’t always apply the M/F rule to other watch types, but I do when it comes to dress watches. Subconsciously, a lot of thoughts go through one’s mind when selecting something to put on your wrist, but with dress watches I must admit, it’s more complicated. They are not novelty watches so they cannot be discounted (for what they are) out of hand. For me, they transcend the boundaries between jewellery and watch making. They tend not to be functional, but decorative and a statement. If you are in the market for a dress watch, then the maker’s offerings out there must be taken seriously. My point is this; as so many makers provide dress watches, (and you see this Breguet style often) sometimes the lines are blurred on what the statement is.

I actually believe these watches pander to upper middle class anxieties about what is the best way of advertising or identify the wearer. It’s tribal and you wear it like a clan marker (I am thinking of Rolex here too). Not that most people would care these days, mind you. But it leaves me with a question. Is the desirability factor of this type of watch with the maker or the buyer? Are these watches push polling or do wearers genuinely think they make a difference?

As for masculine or feminine, I cannot determine just yet.

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Jim

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