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Author:  jonban [ Mon May 09, 2011 12:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Vintage Pocket watches
we just bought these 2 watches in part of a scrap bin, pretty much bought them for the scrap value of the gold casings...... both of watch in my opinion are in great shape and working perfectly. the omega movement is just gorgeous, as us the face.... from my findings, looks as if the omega is from 1968-1970, and the paul moser around the 1920s???? i could be wrong, but was hoping some of the more educated guys on here with vintage stuff may help........thanks much

the paul moser is very small, like the size of quarter, and the omega is a little bit larger than a half dollar, i was thinking about making the omega into a wristwatch its so gorgeous


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Author:  Roffensian [ Mon May 09, 2011 4:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Pocket watches
Omega is a 1967, without a case let's call it $400 - $450 retail, $200 or so from a dealer.

The Moser is subject to a little more debate. There was a P. Moser producing watches in Bienne from 1920 to 1926, but it's generally accepted that these watches are actually made by the firm of Hy. Moser (Johann Heinrich Moser). he was from Le Locle and made mass market watches for the Swiss and Russian markets - he actually moved to Russia and established the first Russian watch factory. This watch supports that heritage with the 56 14K hallmark - 14k we all know, 56 is the Russian grading for 14K. The cases were stamped with both to avoid having to switch cases for the Russian and Swiss watches. I suspect that this is for the Swiss market as the monogram is not in Cyrillic characters. Value of this will be under $100.
Author:  Drtymrtini [ Mon May 09, 2011 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Pocket watches
jonban wrote:
...the paul moser is very small, like the size of quarter, and the omega is a little bit larger than a half dollar, i was thinking about making the omega into a wristwatch its so gorgeous


Personally, I'm not a fan of turning stop watches into wristwatches. I'm a bit of a purist. However, there does seem to be an avid fan base on eBay of folks who really like stop watches that are turned into wristwatches.

To each his own.

That's all I got.
Author:  jonban [ Mon May 09, 2011 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Pocket watches
Roffensian wrote:
Omega is a 1967, without a case let's call it $400 - $450 retail, $200 or so from a dealer.

The Moser is subject to a little more debate. There was a P. Moser producing watches in Bienne from 1920 to 1926, but it's generally accepted that these watches are actually made by the firm of Hy. Moser (Johann Heinrich Moser). he was from Le Locle and made mass market watches for the Swiss and Russian markets - he actually moved to Russia and established the first Russian watch factory. This watch supports that heritage with the 56 14K hallmark - 14k we all know, 56 is the Russian grading for 14K. The cases were stamped with both to avoid having to switch cases for the Russian and Swiss watches. I suspect that this is for the Swiss market as the monogram is not in Cyrillic characters. Value of this will be under $100.



Thanks for the info roff, yea when we buy these old pocket watches we normally just buy it for gold scrap and end up tossing out the movements if there not working, it's a shame, because you would think with the antiqueness of some of these watches they would be of value. The gold case itself weighs approximate 5 dwt. Which comes out to be around $200. So as for the moser, probably just toss it out, or give it to our watchmaker for parts. The omega is just in such fantastic shape, think I'm going to go ahead and make a wristwatch out of it and design myself a casing for it. Thanks again for the help
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue May 10, 2011 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Pocket watches
jonban wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
Omega is a 1967, without a case let's call it $400 - $450 retail, $200 or so from a dealer.

The Moser is subject to a little more debate. There was a P. Moser producing watches in Bienne from 1920 to 1926, but it's generally accepted that these watches are actually made by the firm of Hy. Moser (Johann Heinrich Moser). he was from Le Locle and made mass market watches for the Swiss and Russian markets - he actually moved to Russia and established the first Russian watch factory. This watch supports that heritage with the 56 14K hallmark - 14k we all know, 56 is the Russian grading for 14K. The cases were stamped with both to avoid having to switch cases for the Russian and Swiss watches. I suspect that this is for the Swiss market as the monogram is not in Cyrillic characters. Value of this will be under $100.



Thanks for the info roff, yea when we buy these old pocket watches we normally just buy it for gold scrap and end up tossing out the movements if there not working, it's a shame, because you would think with the antiqueness of some of these watches they would be of value. The gold case itself weighs approximate 5 dwt. Which comes out to be around $200. So as for the moser, probably just toss it out, or give it to our watchmaker for parts. The omega is just in such fantastic shape, think I'm going to go ahead and make a wristwatch out of it and design myself a casing for it. Thanks again for the help



Just bear in mind that the crown on the Omega is at 12 as it was deisgned for an open face case rather than a hunter. The dial feet likely won't allow you to rotate it through 90 degrees so you may need to keep the crown at 12 - hunter movements are a lot easier to convert.
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