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| Author: | boogiebot [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | breaking the threshold... |
ok guys i have been thinking lots about my next purchase (dont seem to feel guilty anymore...lol). I have really been leaning towards a AP ROO Safari or Panda. Everything about the watch SCREAMS perfection to me. Now obviously this watch would be considered a grail purchase for myself and i would have to not purchase another for quite sometime (dont want to end up divorced b4 35). As many of you know the price of this thing is not light but my AD has offered me a very reasonable price on it. But for some reason in my own head i cant get over the cost. I keep saying to myself is it more worth it to buy this one watch or buy a Pam 312 (which i love) and pocket more than half the money? Am i being cheap here or am I just not ready to take that step up?? i should have never gone over and chatted with the guys @ TZ AP forum hahahahaahaha |
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| Author: | Beyond Man [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
boogiebot wrote: ok guys i have been thinking lots about my next purchase (dont seem to feel guilty anymore...lol). I have really been leaning towards a AP ROO Safari or Panda. Everything about the watch SCREAMS perfection to me. Now obviously this watch would be considered a grail purchase for myself and i would have to not purchase another for quite sometime (dont want to end up divorced b4 35). As many of you know the price of this thing is not light but my AD has offered me a very reasonable price on it. But for some reason in my own head i cant get over the cost. I keep saying to myself is it more worth it to buy this one watch or buy a Pam 312 (which i love) and pocket more than half the money? Am i being cheap here or am I just not ready to take that step up?? i should have never gone over and chatted with the guys @ TZ AP forum hahahahaahaha I'm usually not one to dissuade people from purchase, but If you are doubting yourself and even throwing the word divorce around. I would say you are not ready yet. Those are some expensive pieces you are talking about there. |
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| Author: | boogiebot [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
Beyond Man wrote: boogiebot wrote: ok guys i have been thinking lots about my next purchase (dont seem to feel guilty anymore...lol). I have really been leaning towards a AP ROO Safari or Panda. Everything about the watch SCREAMS perfection to me. Now obviously this watch would be considered a grail purchase for myself and i would have to not purchase another for quite sometime (dont want to end up divorced b4 35). As many of you know the price of this thing is not light but my AD has offered me a very reasonable price on it. But for some reason in my own head i cant get over the cost. I keep saying to myself is it more worth it to buy this one watch or buy a Pam 312 (which i love) and pocket more than half the money? Am i being cheap here or am I just not ready to take that step up?? i should have never gone over and chatted with the guys @ TZ AP forum hahahahaahaha I'm usually not one to dissuade people from purchase, but If you are doubting yourself and even throwing the word divorce around. I would say you are not ready yet. Those are some expensive pieces you are talking about there. The AP is definitely on the high side and like i mentioned if i did pull the trigger on this i would not buy a watch for a very long time. I was really just joking about the divorce thing, its impossible to guage tone through some ones typing. You might be right Beyond Man...the ROO might be more cake than im willing to spend right now. |
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| Author: | H2F [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
The key is whether or not you'll be comfortable wearing it out, as I think it's a crime to buy safe queens. Also, I see absolutely nothing wrong with keeping a grail a GRAIL (as in currently lusted after but not yet in possession), as once you get it home, sooner or later (emphasize on sooner) it will lose it's "grail"-ness (human nature...) But ultimately, it's your wrist, your money (your marriage  ) -- so do as you please (as long as you're not taking a loan to buy it).Just my 0.02 
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| Author: | roman4405 [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
While the Roo is a polarizing watch after seeing one in person I realized how outstanding it actually is. If I have the money to get one at a good price I would absolutely go for it, but like others have said , it's your money. Good luck with whatever you decide, and a 312 isn't exactly a bad consolation prize, another of my favorites. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
The dollar price is less relevant than what that cost means to you - to some people a $1,000 watch is 3 years of savings, to others a $100,000 watch is just pocket change. You need to decide what else you could do with that money (or the difference between a 312 and the ROO) and then consider whether that is better use than the watch - I'm assuming that we are only talking disposable income anyway so it comes down to which is going to be a better choice for you / your family / etc. You don't want to look at the ROO and regret not buying the 312 and...., or look at the 312 and feel that it isn't the watch that you really wanted. |
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| Author: | RJRJRJ [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
Sounds like typical cold feet. If its anything like every other large purchase, youll probably get over the shock not too long after you buy it. The fact that youre even considering it is a pretty good indicator that youre not exactly struggling in life, so if its something that you really want and its not gonna mean that you have to sacrifice your families well being, go for it. On the other hand, if you are planning on putting this thing on a credit card and paying it off by the time youre old and gray, please dont. |
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| Author: | Endless [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
Personally I think the AP ROO is in another league compare to the 312, but like yourself the safari and panda are two of my grails. Another positive is that they hold their re-sale value quite well, especially if you are buying it second hand already. Thus if a situation were to arise where you needed the money, you would have no problem selling it for close to what you paid. Obviously if you have the kind of disposable income to buy a $15,000 watch I am sure that won't be an issue, but life is too short to not chase your dreams. If it were me, I would be on my way to the AP AD right now. |
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| Author: | Driver8 [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
Get divorced and buy it! OK I'm kidding there.... honestly!To me I think the most important thing to consider is how you will feel if you buy the AP. Will you or your kids be going hungry as a result? Will it cause arguments at home? Will you be so worried about the cost that it will spoil your enjoyment of it and make you wish you'd never bought it? If so, then you absolutely should NOT buy the AP IMO. These are luxury goods at the end of the day - in other words, they are nice things to have......., but nothing more. We buy them because we enjoy them and they make us feel good in some way (at least that's why I buy them), so if you buy the AP and it makes you feel bad in even a tiny way, then that's entirely missing the point of buying it IMO. My own watch-buying has been curtailed quite a lot recently due to other expenses and while I could obviously dip into the savings or rack up the credit-card to feed my watch "addiction", that would be contrary to why I like to buy them in the first place. My advice is only to buy them if they will make you feel good in every way. |
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| Author: | thomasenlow1 [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
Driver8 wrote: so if you buy the AP and it makes you feel bad in even a tiny way, then that's entirely missing the point of buying it IMO. Very well put Driver. Even a small bit of negative gut feeling whether it be the amount paid, or wishing you had gone for something else can ruin the amazing feeling of a new watch. These purchases shoud be all fun, so if the AP is the one, go out and do it and dont look back. |
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| Author: | boogiebot [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
thanks guys so much for the responses and the genuine caring it says something about this board and the people and it means alot to me. i agree with you guys and just to clarify this purchase would not be a credit card or line of credit purchase and it would not be taking anything away from my family. it really is just the shell shock of spending the money. i felt the exact same way when i got the corum and then again when i bought the motors t and im sure my wife felt it when she bought me the SA. but these watches are not even on the same playing field as the AP. infact the retail value of all 3 is the same retail as the AP. for some strange reason the thought of breaking that 10k mark makes me feel weird. i know this is crazy right?? i mean i had no problem getting these other watches and clearly if i held out i could have got the AP. if the money is not an issue when you guys purchase a watch do you guys have a mental limit that you dont cross? and i know that finance is all subjective the person who is purchasing. like Roff said some people save to spend 1000 and others can just splurge 100k. but do you guys have a certain dollar amount in your head that you just dont cross even if you can afford to do it?? |
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| Author: | H2F [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
Actually, with internet and ebay, the way we now think of most luxury items has changed tremendously. It's no longer just about how much the watch cost, but also how much I can get if I want to sell it when I'm done with it. The permanent cost of ownership for the watch is then just the difference of the two. So knowing I can get back 50%, 70%, or in the case of some PAMs, 400% (and more  ) back, I'm not sure I'm willing to impose an arbritary limit, as long as I'm buying it with my "fun" money allocation.Consider also many other hobbies (eg. Cars), can have MUCH higher cost of ownerships! |
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| Author: | sharkman [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
I absolutely positively adore the ROO - primarily the black 42mm. BUT the 42 or 44 don't fit me due to the long case/lugs. And the 39mm RO is awesome too!. BUT on the bracelet and due to the bracelet design, it doesn't bend enough to fit me right. Now of course there is the RO on the alligator strap - BUT (why so many "buts" with these damn Royal Oaks??) they only put the gold ROs on alligator straps, not the SS. AP you'e killin' me! If they fit - I'd have one. Period!!!!! I was all set to get the black dial on bracelet and rubber. Dang! PS- have you tried out the new non-chrono ROO, black dial diver???????? Pretty sweet too. PPS - Did I mention I really like ROOs??? |
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| Author: | boogiebot [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
sharkman wrote: I absolutely positively adore the ROO - primarily the black 42mm. BUT the 42 or 44 don't fit me due to the long case/lugs. And the 39mm RO is awesome too!. BUT on the bracelet and due to the bracelet design, it doesn't bend enough to fit me right. Now of course there is the RO on the alligator strap - BUT (why so many "buts" with these damn Royal Oaks??) they only put the gold ROs on alligator straps, not the SS. AP you'e killin' me! If they fit - I'd have one. Period!!!!! I was all set to get the black dial on bracelet and rubber. Dang! PS- have you tried out the new non-chrono ROO, black dial diver???????? Pretty sweet too. PPS - Did I mention I really like ROOs??? hey shrakman i remember you mentioning in a previous post about the lugs and i seemed to have the same issue to.the case dimentions are 42mm dial and the case with the lugs is 54mm long. when i tried on a safari at the AD the lugs seemed long too. it was due to the watch being new and the straps would not bend so it seemed to make the watch not sit right on my wrist. i went back recently and tried on a volcano and the sit was perfect. this time i noticed that the watch was sitting in a display window with the straps bent around a clear plastic like tube to make it look like it was sitting on the wrist. im not quite sure if the volcano straps are completely different from the safari in terms of material. maybe the safari gator straps are harder. the volcano straps did seem to fell softer too. |
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| Author: | sharkman [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: breaking the threshold... |
boogiebot wrote: sharkman wrote: I absolutely positively adore the ROO - primarily the black 42mm. BUT the 42 or 44 don't fit me due to the long case/lugs. And the 39mm RO is awesome too!. BUT on the bracelet and due to the bracelet design, it doesn't bend enough to fit me right. Now of course there is the RO on the alligator strap - BUT (why so many "buts" with these damn Royal Oaks??) they only put the gold ROs on alligator straps, not the SS. AP you'e killin' me! If they fit - I'd have one. Period!!!!! I was all set to get the black dial on bracelet and rubber. Dang! PS- have you tried out the new non-chrono ROO, black dial diver???????? Pretty sweet too. PPS - Did I mention I really like ROOs??? hey shrakman i remember you mentioning in a previous post about the lugs and i seemed to have the same issue to.the case dimentions are 42mm dial and the case with the lugs is 54mm long. when i tried on a safari at the AD the lugs seemed long too. it was due to the watch being new and the straps would not bend so it seemed to make the watch not sit right on my wrist. i went back recently and tried on a volcano and the sit was perfect. this time i noticed that the watch was sitting in a display window with the straps bent around a clear plastic like tube to make it look like it was sitting on the wrist. im not quite sure if the volcano straps are completely different from the safari in terms of material. maybe the safari gator straps are harder. the volcano straps did seem to fell softer too. Unfortunately the black dial 42mm I tried was on the rubber strap. With my wrist size and shape, it left large gaps on the top sides of my wrist. So it goes. |
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