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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:34 am 
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Hi folks .. I hope you can pass on some info to me regarding this old watch .. it was origianlly my late grandmothers and I imagine it was bought for her some time circa 1930.

If you could maybe offer some info and maybe even an estimate / guesstimate regarding value it would be appreciated.

In the first pic above the *0 *28 is what appears to be a very faint print of a snake. These marks along with the K14 are stamped on the inside of the back cover.


The Guivre 40428 stamp is behind the internal cover where the actual works of the watch are found.

The keys both fit .. one winds the watch and the other changes the time.

The watch is in working order and holds a reasonably accurate time.

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I'm going to need more information I'm afraid. Can you post photos of the full movement and dial please? What you are reading as Guivre is actually cuivre which is French for copper, but generally used on watches for metal.

I'm tempted to think it's rather a lot earlier than 1930 as it's key set / key wind, but I need to see the watch itself to be able to offer anything more.


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Roffensian wrote:
I'm going to need more information I'm afraid. Can you post photos of the full movement and dial please? What you are reading as Guivre is actually cuivre which is French for copper, but generally used on watches for metal.

I'm tempted to think it's rather a lot earlier than 1930 as it's key set / key wind, but I need to see the watch itself to be able to offer anything more.


Thanks for your input.

The front of the watch shows no maker name or any other marks of any kind.

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I'd love to be able to post the full movement but the plate is held on by several small screws that I would not be completely happy about removing as an amateur ..i've taken a pic of decent resolution and size showing a little of the movement .. the words that are upside down read fast/ slow.

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Interesting, looks like an American 3/4 plate. I'll try and find something in the books - are you also able to measure the diameter of the movement?


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Interesting, looks like an American 3/4 plate. I'll try and find something in the books - are you also able to measure the diameter of the movement?


i'll take a few more pics and include measurements etc for you tomorrow .. once again thank you for your assistance.


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Was your grandmother in the UK all her life? I'm just trying to place the watch as we don't have maker's marks to help us. The movement at first glance looks American, but the case is European (French or Swiss - I'm not a good enough expert on hallmarks to be sure) and yet it's lived in England. I'm thinking that it may be a much older watch that was recased and sold to your grandmother. If it is American then it will be 1880s or earlier as a key set / key wind.


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