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AP own a 40 % share in Jaeger LeCoultre and get most of their base movements from them, so it's no surprise that the Offshore is also JLC-powered. The official calibre number is 2126/2840, the number 2126 relates to the base movement, 2840 to the chronograph movement propped on top.

Calibre 2126 (2125 when it's not in a chronograph) is basically a JLC 889/1 running at 21'600 A/h instead of 28'800. It's an automatic, 26 mm in diameter, 3.25 mm high, has 33 jewels and a power reserve of 45 hours. I don't know the origin of the chrono module but I somehow doubt that JLC makes it, Dubois-Depraz or some other specialized company would be my guess. As far as I can tell, the module is exclusively for AP, I haven't seen it in watches by any other manufacturer.

Well, the first link you posted says:

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AP has a 40% share of JLC?! I'm not gonna lie, that cheapens the JLC brand a little for me. The Master Grand Réveil I've been drooling over just became slightly less interesting. I thought JLC was completely independent, like Breitling . . .

-Craig

Just got it!!!

This is by far the best watch I have ever owned! The design and finish are both stunning! Remarkable workmanship and by far the best leather strap I have ever seen!!!

I am blown away, pics and a quick review coming up!

Author:	Altair [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:34 am ]
Post subject:	AP Safari on route!
My first Audimars and I can't wait! Should be here in one to two days! Will post pics when it is in my hands.

Author:	Driver8 [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
Nice going Altair! Definitely my favourite AP by a considerable margin. Looking forward to those pics, and it'd be really great if you could do a wrist shot, and also a comparison shot with a couple of other pieces just to get an idea of relative size. (My nearest AP AD is MILES away!)

Author:	Roffensian [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:25 am ]
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Congrats Altair! Looking forward to the pics, definitely one of the nicest APs.

Author:	Altair [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
Thank you both, so exited all I can do is read about the watch to pass the time. I actually happened over this article http://www.fratellowatches.com/archives ... ri-review/ Which seemed to hint that the movement was an exclusive AP calibre!! This article also explains many aspects of the movement: http://www.chronometrie.com/beast/offrev.htm Also, cant find any references to it being an ETA 7750 at all. Could it be that the AP ROO has an in house movement? or am I missing something?

Author:	sharkman [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:47 pm ]
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i alwyas tthought it was in house. I love the asymetrical 12 subdial. I tried the Safari, ROO black dial, and Rose gold ROO (who am I kidding?) on just for kicks. Oh, sweet looking watches all. They are a great fit for small and large wrists alike.

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Author:	Tim S [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:06 pm ]
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Congratulations Altair. AP's are not my thing but I know the anticipation of a new watch. I look forward to your report and pics.

Author:	Roffensian [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
Movement is in house, just not in AP's house They are modified JLCs - slow beat versions, not sure what other modifications are made (if any).

Author:	Altair [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:06 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
Roff thanks for that bit of info. Do you have a source with more information? Every source I came across seems to suggest that the caliber is fully Ap

Author:	dhalem [ Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
Well, the first link you posted says: Quote: AP own a 40 % share in Jaeger LeCoultre and get most of their base movements from them, so it's no surprise that the Offshore is also JLC-powered. The official calibre number is 2126/2840, the number 2126 relates to the base movement, 2840 to the chronograph movement propped on top. Calibre 2126 (2125 when it's not in a chronograph) is basically a JLC 889/1 running at 21'600 A/h instead of 28'800. It's an automatic, 26 mm in diameter, 3.25 mm high, has 33 jewels and a power reserve of 45 hours. I don't know the origin of the chrono module but I somehow doubt that JLC makes it, Dubois-Depraz or some other specialized company would be my guess. As far as I can tell, the module is exclusively for AP, I haven't seen it in watches by any other manufacturer.

Author:	Roffensian [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:34 am ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
dhalem wrote: Well, the first link you posted says: Quote: AP own a 40 % share in Jaeger LeCoultre and get most of their base movements from them, so it's no surprise that the Offshore is also JLC-powered. The official calibre number is 2126/2840, the number 2126 relates to the base movement, 2840 to the chronograph movement propped on top. Calibre 2126 (2125 when it's not in a chronograph) is basically a JLC 889/1 running at 21'600 A/h instead of 28'800. It's an automatic, 26 mm in diameter, 3.25 mm high, has 33 jewels and a power reserve of 45 hours. I don't know the origin of the chrono module but I somehow doubt that JLC makes it, Dubois-Depraz or some other specialized company would be my guess. As far as I can tell, the module is exclusively for AP, I haven't seen it in watches by any other manufacturer. I believe that the chrono module is DD produced.

Author:	Altair [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
Dont know how I missed that, I blame it on the jetlag!

Author:	bozman52 [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
AP has a 40% share of JLC?! I'm not gonna lie, that cheapens the JLC brand a little for me. The Master Grand Réveil I've been drooling over just became slightly less interesting. I thought JLC was completely independent, like Breitling . . . -Craig

Author:	Altair [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
Just got it!!! This is by far the best watch I have ever owned! The design and finish are both stunning! Remarkable workmanship and by far the best leather strap I have ever seen!!! I am blown away, pics and a quick review coming up!

Author:	Roffensian [ Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: AP Safari on route!
bozman52 wrote: AP has a 40% share of JLC?! I'm not gonna lie, that cheapens the JLC brand a little for me. The Master Grand Réveil I've been drooling over just became slightly less interesting. I thought JLC was completely independent, like Breitling . . . -Craig It's just corporate ownership - it doesn't mean anythin g per se - no different to our independent Breitlings having Swatch movements. Altair wrote: Just got it!!! This is by far the best watch I have ever owned! The design and finish are both stunning! Remarkable workmanship and by far the best leather strap I have ever seen!!! I am blown away, pics and a quick review coming up! Glad that it is exciting you Altair - looking forward to the review. Good to see that you are moving in the right direction (away from wall clocks that is )

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Author:	Driver8 [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:22 am ]
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Altair wrote: Just got it!!! This is by far the best watch I have ever owned! The design and finish are both stunning! Remarkable workmanship and by far the best leather strap I have ever seen!!! I am blown away, pics and a quick review coming up! Wow, that's high praise indeed from you Altair, considering the absolute stunners you have in your collection! I'm REALLY looking forward to the review and pictures now!