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Author:  carlhaluss [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
Realizing that this is primarily a Breitling forum, there may be some bias :wink:
I was at my Breitling/Omega AD a couple of weeks ago, and saw a 2007 model Seamaster Pro 36mm with the 1120 caliber. It is the older model with the non-applied markers. It is a new, never-been-owned watch. Here is a link to a site with many good pics of that model:
http://www.keepthetime.com/index.php?ma ... cts_id=131
Something about it really hooked me. I asked if there was any chance that I might be able to trade down from my Breitling Avenger Seawolf, purchased this year. They did work out a deal for an even trade. The list price of the Seamaster is $2550.00. I realize that the caliber 1120 is tried and true and quite excellent, so it is not important to me that it is not a coaxial. I have a new Railmaster Coaxial, and also an Aqua Terra 8500, so now I would have all three movements as well! No more Breitlings however. The list price on the Seawolf was $3270. All funds in CAD.
The Seawolf just seems too big for me, and my own trend lately is to the smaller watches. I figure that if I sold my Seawolf privately, I would end up maybe not quite as well off as the trade in deal at the AD.
Anyway, I will probably go in on Saturday to do the deal. Just wondered if anyone had some friendly advice.
Cheers,
Carl
Author:  dhalem [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
If you want the simplicity of using the AD go for it. But my opinion is that the Omega is worth about $1500 on the used market and the Seawolf about $1800 (prices US). So you'll be taking a hit. But that's just opinion.
Author:  carlhaluss [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
Actually, the Omega is brand new. My thought was that I might get $2000. for the Seawolf if I sold it privately. The Omega is listed at $2550. If I got the max discount which is probably 25%, that would be $1912.50 plus taxes in BC would bring the total to $2142.00. The more likely scenario would be $1800. for the Seawolf, and a 20% discount on the Omega - maybe 25 if lucky - so I would be slightly ahead doing the trade, plus saving all the hassle of selling privately. It is a pain sending watches across the border, I just sold 2. So it would be easier if someone in Canada bought it, but there is not as much market.
Thanks for the response and thoughts.
Cheers,
Carl
Author:  vadim [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
My personal opinion is that you should of kept the Rolex. The link that you posted does not work but i did find the exact model and it looks a lot like that rolex that you had for a few days (not sure if you sold it yet) but it is a lot smaller. My AD here in NYC is having a blow out sale on all Omegas but i'm not sure if he has this particular model,but no sale on breitlings any of them except for pre-owned. My point is that B-lings tend to hold their value a lot better then Omega at least here in NYC. Can you explain to me what is Co-Axial escapement, if it has something to do with the water resistance, and if Omega make their own in house movement? Sorry for including my self in your post I'm just trying to get some info on a divers watch. Thanks
Author:  carlhaluss [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
vadim wrote:
My personal opinion is that you should of kept the Rolex. The link that you posted does not work but i did find the exact model and it looks a lot like that rolex that you had for a few days (not sure if you sold it yet) but it is a lot smaller. My AD here in NYC is having a blow out sale on all Omegas but i'm not sure if he has this particular model,but no sale on breitlings any of them except for pre-owned. My point is that B-lings tend to hold their value a lot better then Omega at least here in NYC. Can you explain to me what is Co-Axial escapement, if it has something to do with the water resistance, and if Omega make their own in house movement? Sorry for including my self in your post I'm just trying to get some info on a divers watch. Thanks


Hi Vadim,
Not quite sure if we are talking about the same thing here, as I never had a Rolex.
The escapement is the mechanical core of the watch, and the Omega coaxial movement is the newest movement that supposedly ensueres better accuracy and less wear over time. The newest one, the 8500, is totally an inhouse movement. The 2403, still in a lot of Omegas, is only modified inhouse. The 1120, as in the Omega I am looking at, is neither inhouse nor coaxial. Still a very dependable movement, with all the modifications done by Omega. Here is a link to the Omega website, where there is an explanation of Coaxial technology:
http://www.omegawatches.com/index.php?id=100
I am sure there are others on this forum who are a lot better at explaining the mechanics of the watches than me.
As far as water resistance, my Seawolf has way more than the Omega. Since I am not a diver, however, the 300m of the Seamaster is more than adequate.
Hope some of this info will help you.
Author:  RJRJRJ [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
TBH, I think $1800 would be a stretch. Are they really selling for that much? If you dont like the B, trade it...but I wouldnt.
Author:  Roffensian [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
I think that there is a small financial hit, but I don't think it's that significant - $100 - $200 net maybe (yes, I know 'significant' is relative). For ease and simplicity that might be worthwhile.
Author:  aleister [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
Hi Carl,

If you have your mind set on the Omega I don't see a reason why not go ahead. I don't know the Canadian/North American market but I trust your calculations. If I had my mind set on a trade and then could justify it with your math I'd go for the AD. To avoid the hassle with an online sell (and you can never be sure on the outcome, how much/when) and the ease of having it all done at the same time - especially at an AD with a personal relationship. For that I'd be willing to even sacrifice a few $100.
Author:  carlhaluss [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trading Breitling for Omega at AD
Thanks for your input guys. For the sake of possibly a couple hundred bucks at most, I'm just going ahead and getting the watch from my AD. I really think that what they have worked out for me is a pretty reasonable deal.
That's the good news.
The bad, is that I will have no more Breitllings, at least at the moment. Since I have pretty much gone to the smaller size watches - and feeling very comfortable with them - I am looking at maybe getting a Windrider Cockpit in the future. At one time, the Blackbird was my favourite, but no need for a chronograph, and the Cockpit suits my needs just fine.
For now, the Aqua Terra 8500 at 41mm seems pretty large after wearing the 36mm Railmaster all week. Funny how our tastes change. I almost feel like a showoff when I wear the Seawolf now, it just seems enormous.
Well, tomorrow I get the new Seamaster. Will try to post some pics.
Thanks again for all of your help and advice.
Cheers,
Carl
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