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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:45 pm 
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Agreed. What truly mystifies me is the "99% of watches are fake" warning on their site. I don't understand why they persist in perpetuating that lie.


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It has become apparently clear to me that one cannot be in disagreement with a moderator on this site.


What does that mean? You haven't been banned or anything at all. The moderator doesn't agree with you, and you don't agree with him. You haven't been fined. You guys are duking it out in the open forum. You threw down first.

You're making it sound like he did something to you, like you're some sort of victim.


I berate people for buying grey market... Have I? Really have i? Because I certainly didn't type that anywhere. Let's stick to facts when debating and not put words in people's mouths. And don't forget, a year from now when we don't get our LE I'm going to blame driver... He has a crystal ball I guess?

Victim? Hardly!! I'm fortunate enough to own a few nice watches and chat about it online with others who enjoy them....I just have to make sure I'm in agreeance with the powers at be otherwise an explosion of nonsense happens.


It has become abundantly clear to me that you did not understand anything I wrote. But this is off-topic.

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Agreed. What truly mystifies me is the "99% of watches are fake" warning on their site. I don't understand why they persist in perpetuating that lie.


i think they do is so the newer buyers will go to the AD.


I'm sure you're right. It's still misleading and unfortunate.


I think the idea is that they are including the 1000's of Chinese sites out there selling fakes and actually advertising them as fakes. If you include those, I suppose that they would account for 99%. But they are just being misleading.

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Agreed. What truly mystifies me is the "99% of watches are fake" warning on their site. I don't understand why they persist in perpetuating that lie.

I imagine it's intended to have an impact on people who are new to the scene.

When I first decided to get a decent watch, I knew I liked the look of Breitlings so I did two things:

1. I did a Google search, which of course brought up a whole lot of "Breitlings" for sale.
2. I went to the Breitling website, and when I did so I saw the warning (I remember it distinctly)

This was long before I knew, well, anything. And it was before I found this site, which was in its early days at the time and didn't feature prominently in Google search results.


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dhalem wrote:
Agreed. What truly mystifies me is the "99% of watches are fake" warning on their site. I don't understand why they persist in perpetuating that lie.


i think they do is so the newer buyers will go to the AD.


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Agreed. What truly mystifies me is the "99% of watches are fake" warning on their site. I don't understand why they persist in perpetuating that lie.


i think they do is so the newer buyers will go to the AD.


I'm sure you're right. It's still misleading and unfortunate.


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I don't think 99% is right ,but it is a pretty high percentage. Google "Breitling" and of the 100s of sites you get, most are replica sites. Maybe that's what they are getting at.

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I don't think 99% is right ,but it is a pretty high percentage. Google "Breitling" and of the 100s of sites you get, most are replica sites. Maybe that's what they are getting at.


On the first page of google, 4 of the links are replica sites, the other 9 are legit. That makes 30% fake. I could tell you more about what's going on behind the scenes, but then I'd have to kill you.


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Now we're just arguing over semantics. I think it's safe to say that the 99% is a bit dramatic but there are a hell of a lot of fakes out there. But I'll also say that the 99% does work, that's why I searched for more information on the internet and wound up finding this site, so I guess I'll just say Thanks Breitling.

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dhalem wrote:
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I don't think 99% is right ,but it is a pretty high percentage. Google "Breitling" and of the 100s of sites you get, most are replica sites. Maybe that's what they are getting at.


On the first page of google, 4 of the links are replica sites, the other 9 are legit. That makes 30% fake. I could tell you more about what's going on behind the scenes, but then I'd have to kill you.



Oh THAT'S OK, I think I'd rahter remain blissfully ignorant. :wink:

If you scroll through the pages on google you will find more and more fake site. That's why I said "I don't think 99%" is right.

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Oh THAT'S OK, I think I'd rahter remain blissfully ignorant. :wink:

If you scroll through the pages on google you will find more and more fake site. That's why I said "I don't think 99%" is right.


Yeah, but clearly the ranking algorithm is doing a decent job. Most people don't even get to the bottom of the first page of search results:
http://www.seoresearcher.com/distributi ... alysis.htm


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dhalem wrote:
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Agreed. What truly mystifies me is the "99% of watches are fake" warning on their site. I don't understand why they persist in perpetuating that lie.


i think they do is so the newer buyers will go to the AD.


I'm sure you're right. It's still misleading and unfortunate.


You're right, it is misleading. This website is part of the 'internet' and the items sold on here are not fake...at least they better not be or I'm on the next plane to Phoenix. 99% is extreme, there has to be a better way to convey the message to use AD's as opposed to Grey Market websites.

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I don't hink they are trying to steer poeple away from gray market - gray market makes them more money. It's the massive amount of fakes out there that they are "over-stating."

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I don't hink they are trying to steer poeple away from gray market - gray market makes them more money. It's the massive amount of fakes out there that they are "over-stating."


That's an interesting take on '99% of watches sold on the internet are fake' slogan. I think it's open for interpretation; my initial reaction was that any website selling a Breitling had a 99% chance of being fake....so you better buy from an Authorized Dealer. Those were my initial thoughts when I first visited their site a few years ago. Now that I have a little better understand of how the gray market works, I realize that they're most likely not fake but I still think that slogan is in place to get people into AD's and to avoid internet purchases.

If gray market makes them more money, why would they post that slogan? I know I'm missing something here.

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I don't hink they are trying to steer poeple away from gray market - gray market makes them more money. It's the massive amount of fakes out there that they are "over-stating."



:yeahthat . Well said Shark. They obviously are not overly concerned about gray market dealers.


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