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I own a few different brands, but Breitling is my fav. I don't think it's likely I will only ever have ALL one brand, but pretty close to it for sure. There are just too many choices out there to limit yourself to one brand specifically, simply no one brand does everything better than everyone else and you are doing yourself an injustice.

So I went to an AD to try the Navi. Wow, what a nice watch. I think I am starting to change my mind about the IWC and the Omega. Even though I'll be staying with the same brand, the watch itself is very different from what I currently have. It fits like a glove and looks really nice. Its always going to look this stylish I think.

Even though I really like the IWC, I dont think it will look so nice with my suits. I wear suits everyday and it might look a bit too sporty. Also, I am not sure if it will age well. I really like it though. In regards with the PO, I think that I will wait until my 30th and just go all out and get a rolex sub...

I wanted to check the price with you guys. They only had one navi on blue dial and bracelet. Price $6425 CAD. Right away she was able to give me 15%. I am thinking that after the holidays around end of January and February (around my bday) there could be even bigger deals. Do you think I will be able to go as much as 40% off around that time of year?

I think I might stay with Breitling

Now if I can get a good price on a black dial navi I might pull the trigger...

Good times

Quick question: she also mentioned that in the next couple of years they will be changing the movement to an in-house like the B1. Can anyone confirm please? If this is the case, I am assuming the price will increase from where it is now...

Thanks,
Alex

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Alex
Breitling - Navitimer
Breitling - SuperOcean
Breitling - Chrono SuperOcean

Anything upwards of 25% is good, the most I have ever heard of is 30%.

I think you will find that the majority of the people on this forum own brands outside of Breitling. We all love Breitling, but what makes this forum unique is that for the most part you get honest opinions...not just a blind promotion of Breitling over any other brand.

If you are truly interested in the Navi now, that changes the calculus entirely. It becomes the Navi or one of the others because they are watches from different categories all together. So in that event it's decide whether you want a classic Navi or a diver's watch. The Navitimer is an awesome piece.

I wouldn't give as second thought to branching out if it were the second watch. The Navitimer would give you more options. That it wold mean 2 Breitlings IMO is a good thing, not something to be avoided.

Whatever you do you can't go wrong - you've picked 3 great pieces.

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SHARKMAN

Breitling has already released a Navi with an in house movement. It hit the market a few weeks ago. If you do a search on here you will find the retail price listed. It's referred to as the Navitimer B01 Limited Edition w/Display Back (DB) It's very pricey...a bit over priced in my opinion; but it's a beauty....and it's slightly larger than the standard Navitimer.

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"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"

I disagree
IWC is too "overplayed" these days...
don't get me wrong, it is one of the finest, dedicated automatic movement watch
but to be honest, the quality of fit and finish is much better in Breitlings and Omegas
unless you get the IWC's in house movement in Big Pilot models, i really don't see IWCs as much superior than Brietlings or Omegas.

I kind of agree with Navitimerworld here, although having owned all three brands I'd put the fit and finish of IWC on a par with Breitling and Omega. I personally don't see enough of a distinguisher between IWC and the others unless you look at IWC's in-house pieces. In that respect I'd say they are just currently more advanced that Breitling an Omega in that area and they've been at the in-house game for longer.

That said, I'd advise serious caution with the IWC 51111 in-house 7 day movement (and variants) as it's often found to be incapable of maintaining a decent daily rate. My BP certainly is : my mates BI certainly is : and after talking to an IWC AD recently, it would seem that there are a number of others who bemoan the 7 dayer's ability to keep good time.

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I gotta agree too. While IWC does make some beautiful watches, I think that their models with outsourced movements (ETA and Valjoux) are a bit overpriced. Their higher end in-house watches on the other hand are a different story in my opinion, but I seem to hear more and more about the inability of some of their in-house movements to keep good time, as Driver already said, which is a shame because the BP is one impressive watch, much more so in person than in pics.

As far as the in-house Navi, the current Navi 01 LE is a bit pricey but, and someone correct me if I'm wrong here, I believe that when the standard Navi 01 comes out the price should be a bit more down to earth, you've gotta think that the fact that it won't have a display back, and won't be an LE, so it shouldn't be as bad, but it still won't be cheap. If I was you and could afford it I'd probably wait until the standard Navi 01 comes out, though I'm not too sure when that is.

I also think a Navi would be a great addition, since you wear suits everyday the Navi would work great in that environment and it is a timeless design that I don't think will ever be out of style. Plus you already have a sport/diver type of watch. The Navi for work and the SO for after work and weekends and you'll have everything covered. Good luck.

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Navitimer is too small in my opinion. That's the main reason I went with the Navi-World. It was hard for me to read, and it looked small on my wrist. I'm not a huge fan of Omega, but the Seamaster is a fine timepiece. The IWC is a great looking piece, but I think it's a bit pricey. If I spent that much money on a timepiece I would expect it to come with a bracelet.

If I was choosing, I would choose the Omega because it's reasonably priced. Its a rugged piece and would look great if you were casual or formal.

~Brian

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Thanks again to all for getting back to me and for sharing your insights. Its greatly appreciated and it has shed light and provided me with a variety of perspectives which will help me make a more informed decision.

I was again at the Breitling AD today after work and tried the Navi again. I think I might go this way. My current SO has served me well, quality, fit and finish, x-factor, and durability. In essence a strong proven track record so I have no hesitation to go with another Bling. Its funny because at the start I was very confident I was going to end up with the IWC. Now things have changed...

Furthermore, someone mentioned it would complement my SO. I can wear the Navi for work and the SO for more casual wear. I love the design of the IWC but it is a bit more sporty when you are wearing a suit and pocket square

Another point that was raised and was of concern to me is the precision of the time piece. I know that both the Navi and my SO are certified Chronometres compared to the IWC which is not. If memory serves me correctly, I think the IWC uses a highly modified ETA 2892 movement just like the SO. However its not certified. For my money and peace of mind I rather have the certification.

It looks like the Navi checks all the boxes and I love how it sits on my wrist. I am looking for a black dial on black croc leather strap and deployment buckle

Don't get me wrong, the PO is an amazing watch, enough said, however, it doesn't sit right on my wrist and I can't justify spending that much money on something that I am not completely happy with.

The IWC can always come a bit later in my career along with other brands to diversify my little collection that I want to start.

For now though having both the SO and NAvi I think I got a few bases covered even if I stay within Breitling.

Plus I don't have unlimited budget. I am looking to spend under $5000CAD so with some negotiation I think I might get the Navi in that range. I know someone mentioned the new Navi 01 however that is out of the budget for next February. Maybe in the future if I start putting money aside.

The watch in question I think of getting early next year is a gift to myself for having finished my MBA last year, gotten a promotion, and by next year around my bday when I intend to get the watch gotten rid of all my school debt...after that, who knows what other stupidities I might think of getting...

Thanks for the help and any other thoughts, please don't hesitate to share...constructive comments are always welcomed.

Alex

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Alex
Breitling - Navitimer
Breitling - SuperOcean
Breitling - Chrono SuperOcean

great decision, what makes you happy will be the answer in the end...
kinda similar to my story
i was looking for "THE" watch that i wanted to keep for a long time...and i started looking at Tag Grand Carrera
I also considered Omega Seamaster, but after saving up some more money for the watch, i thought i should go for a better one
Studied IWC to death...lol, loved them...but if i wasn't gonna get the big pilot or a nice portuegese, i didn't want to jus buy an IWC for the "name"...
I then tried the Navi, was in love with it...then after a few visits I settled with Navi World (White Dial, Black leather)
From the chunky clasp buckle, detailed quality, fit and finish ,and the classic look of the Navi, the unique circular side rules...To me. the overall feel of the navi was better than Rolex submariners...(man i hate that Rolex's thin tin looking clasp...)
Navi has been made with virtually the same design since 1950s, it really is a classic time piece.
hope you enjoy your watch in the future!

If you like that IWC, you should check out the Bremont Supermarine. Very cool watch.

A bit of info and a pic:

"Bremont has announced the launch of their first marine watch – the Supermarine 500. Following on from the success that the company has had with its aviation watches Nick and Giles English wanted to build an “amphibious watch” that was both classical in its design and aviation roots but very effective as a diving watch.

The design of the Supermarine has been built using Bremont‟s unique Trip-Tick three piece case construction which gives it a water resistance depth of 500m or 1660ft, but keeps the classic curved profile of the 42mm case design which is so distinctive to Bremont. An elegant crown protector has been built onto the side of the inner barrel, and following on from other Bremont models the watch case has been specially treated for strength using Bremont‟s B-EBE2000 technology. As with all Bremont watches the Supermarine is Swiss Made at the Bremont atelier in Biel-Bienne and houses a modified BE-36A automatic chronometer movement.

Extensive testing in the UK by Bremont on this and other new models at its test facility has led to the design and construction of an „Anti-Shock‟ movement mount to help protect the movement against large shocks. The movement is also housed inside an Anti-Magnetic faraday cage to protect the balance, balance spring and escapement from any effects of magnetisation.

For clarity the bezel is being made of sapphire which covers the Superluminova C5 numbers, and the sapphire crystal covering the dial will be coated on both sides with Bremont‟s usual 9 layers of anti reflective coating."

More cool pics with all black bezel here:
http://mob.watchprosite.com/show-forump ... 65211/s-0/

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-RJ

I've been checking out that very Bremont for some time!! It's gorgeous.

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SHARKMAN

Thanks man, trust me, I cant wait to get it. I have been waiting years...so I guess a few months wont hurt plus I think my chances of getting a good deal after the holidays in January and February are better than if I go now...

Alex

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Alex
Breitling - Navitimer
Breitling - SuperOcean
Breitling - Chrono SuperOcean