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I never fail to wonder about the sellers on ebay. I just completed a series of exchanges with someone who is trying to sell a Chronomat with a reserve of over $1200. I asked for a photo of the back of the watch and one with a current newspaper or magazine. I even explained why I wanted this. In return I get the 'hey I have 100% feedback (yeah on 38 transactions, whoopie) and that it's to much bother to send additional photos.

The photos in the ad (all two of them) could have been taken at a jewelers and so I wanted more info. Pity but I don't NEED that watch, I'd LIKE it but don't NEED it.

Does anyone else find this to be somewhat odd that a seller of something of this value would want to irritate potential customers?

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Currently:
Breitling - Colt chronoOcean
Others - RADO Integral Jubile, Movado Museum, Lum-Tec M9, Seikos

Special knowledge can be a terrible disadvantage if it leads you too far along a path that you cannot explain anymore.
Frank Herbert 'Dune'

I've seen sellers with hundreds, even thousands transactions and 100% feedback, trying to pedal not even a reps but hideous fakes for a thousands of $.

Let me give an example of something currently on ebay.

It is a seller in this case with no feedback what-so ever. Supposedly selling a Chrono Superocean.
He does not offer insurance. He will not allow returns if dissatisfied with the watch.
He has only one photo of the watch and I have asked him twice to post a pic of the caseback. Each time he has replied that he has posted it. But he hasn't.

But here is the real kicker. The picture he is using on ebay is the picture of the Chrono Superocean from the Breitling Source website with the Breitling Source logo cropped out of the picture!

The price is currently at $415.00 with 23 bids and three days to go. Some of the bidders are people with numerous past transactions some even with over 200.

But basically, as far as anyone knows, he is selling nothing at all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2759.l1259

http://www.breitlingsource.com/watch_de ... ne_75.html

I have just had the same thing when looking at a watch on ebay it was listed buy it now or bset offer and I went in with a really low offer half of his buy it now,He accepted within 15 mins and then emailed asking where he could send a request for payment,I asked for a pic of the back of the watch and he said he couldnt do that as he was working away,I aid I am not pying without seeing the back so he is now getting very threatning and abusive calling me a timewaster I'll let you know how it goes

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Should you not of asked for a pic of the back before you made an offer?

on reflection yes but i was scared somone would buy it now

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Hmm not to be rude or anything but you kind of backed yourself into a corner. You seem to have gambled that you could get the item really cheap in exchange for not understanding the quality, or availability, of the item and now your having second thoughts.

I'm having to agree with bfk you increased your risk in exchange for a 'really good deal'.

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Currently:
Breitling - Colt chronoOcean
Others - RADO Integral Jubile, Movado Museum, Lum-Tec M9, Seikos

Special knowledge can be a terrible disadvantage if it leads you too far along a path that you cannot explain anymore.
Frank Herbert 'Dune'

whilst I agree that I was hasty I put in a really low offer of £250 and he accepted straight away,I was hoping to communicate with him before completeing and as I had not parted with my cash I was at worst going to get an unpaid item strike and one bad feedback so there was very little risk on my part.

What would have been stupid would be to pay then ask for photos,Anyway in conclusion to this he has now asked me to agree to a Agree not to complete so if any of you see a Breitling Colt Quartz on ebay UK for a £499 buy it now or best offer with only pics of the front be a little bit carefull as he will try to say he is out of the country and has no access to a camera he really only started to get akward when I asked how he was going to post it then?

So it cost me nothing but it taught me a lot check what you are buying before making an offer so it was a very inexpensive lesson for me.

here is old auction
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0394600573
and pics

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Yeah I had looked at that and when I asked him I got the same reply. What's funny is that these sellers seem to want to make it my problem that I don't trust them.

Here is another exchange:
(New MOVADO Esperanza Museum LADIES Watch Two Tone)
Dear <name>,

You have a mens watch also that I am interested in. Can you send me photos of the back of both watches? I'd also like a photo of the watches that includes a recent newspaper or magazine.

You mention that this is not grey market, can you think of a way to prove that to my satisfaction? I realize you may wish to refrain from disclosing the name of the AD but ... too many people, including power sellers, have been burned with bad watches and I'm not willing to risk the money.

Thanks

PS I realize you may find this to be to much trouble, in which case just don't respond to this email.
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Obviously you did not bother to look at my over 7000 100% positive feedback. Because if you had you would have no need for all this proof that my items are authentic. What is an AD?
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Not meaning to sound rude but does that mean you are an expert at identifying all of the brands and models of the items you sell?

AD = Authorized Distributor
To get a factory warranty for any higher end watch requires that the watch be sold directly to the consumer by a factory authorized seller.

So this one was an eyeopener for me, which of these two, if either, is real?
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I included the photo of the fake vs real Rolex from another thread on this list. I'm waiting to see if the seller has a clue yet. Personally I had a difficult time noticing the differences but even then I wasn't sure which was real, only that there were some subtle differences. While it may indeed may be the real thing if it's more than I'm willing to throw away then I want some validation.

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Currently:
Breitling - Colt chronoOcean
Others - RADO Integral Jubile, Movado Museum, Lum-Tec M9, Seikos

Special knowledge can be a terrible disadvantage if it leads you too far along a path that you cannot explain anymore.
Frank Herbert 'Dune'

exactly the same attitude to me it was like yeah ive got postive feedback you should trust,How dare you ask me any questions attitude,thats what put me off the whole deal.

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Well you got by pretty easy with no negative feedback. Guess that kinda proved your reservations. My take is no matter how good the deal sounds, even if it was true, lose the deal or lose the cash. Right now I like the cash

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Currently:
Breitling - Colt chronoOcean
Others - RADO Integral Jubile, Movado Museum, Lum-Tec M9, Seikos

Special knowledge can be a terrible disadvantage if it leads you too far along a path that you cannot explain anymore.
Frank Herbert 'Dune'

I like to keep the cash as well but he didnt want to show pics so I will forget him and move on .

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Wow found another one. I was looking at this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... TQ:US:1123

The details said all of the pictures were his. Ok so I pointed out (and provided the link) to the photos that were not his and asked him to explain how I could trust him about the watch when he lied about the photos.

and got this reply:
well if you have any dough then don't bid no body forced you to bid as i said all my stuff is guaranteed authentic.

I should go to the bank get some cash and send the uh ()&() a picture of about 10K worth of US $100's. Oh wait I don't care.

you know for all of the trouble and how much these guys typically are asking for unsubstantiated authenticity I've about decided they just aren't worth it and just go to my AD and buy them new. Except some of what I want isn't available new. So I guess I'll just have to cull the listings I'm looking at.

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Currently:
Breitling - Colt chronoOcean
Others - RADO Integral Jubile, Movado Museum, Lum-Tec M9, Seikos

Special knowledge can be a terrible disadvantage if it leads you too far along a path that you cannot explain anymore.
Frank Herbert 'Dune'