The Breitling Watch Source Forums

Breitling Watch Information Forums, Navitimer, Chronomat
It is currently Mon May 05, 2025 2:13 pm

Board index » General Watch Discussion » General Watch Discussion

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 12 posts ] 
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
boogiebot
 Post subject: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:21 pm 
Offline
King of Ling
King of Ling

Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:58 pm
Posts: 2767
Likes: 5 posts
Liked in: 50 posts
still trying to learn as much about Panerai as i can. from my understanding both these watches have sandwich dials and both use the 1950 case. the only difference is the in house movement and date window that the 312 has is this correct?
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
john123
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:28 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:00 am
Posts: 1095
Likes: 21 posts
Liked in: 5 posts
Location: Gotham
You are correct about the in house movement and the date window on the 312. The 312 also has a brushed case with a polished bezel where the 111 has a polished case. The 111 is hand wound instead of an automatic. Also, if I am not mistaken the 111 does not have the 1950 case (I'm not 100% on that one).

Both are beautiful watches, but if you can afford the difference then the 312 is the way to go IMO.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
roman4405
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:49 pm 
Offline
King of Ling
King of Ling
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 1:51 am
Posts: 1924
Likes: 3 posts
Liked in: 13 posts
Location: Virginia Beach
john123 wrote:
You are correct about the in house movement and the date window on the 312. The 312 also has a brushed case with a polished bezel where the 111 has a polished case. The 111 is hand wound instead of an automatic. Also, if I am not mistaken the 111 does not have the 1950 case (I'm not 100% on that one).

Both are beautiful watches, but if you can afford the difference then the 312 is the way to go IMO.

:yeahthat

john's correct, the 111 doesn't have the 1950 case. Plus the 312 has a display caseback.

_________________
"Leave the gun, take the cannoli."
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Otto
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:06 pm 
Offline
King of Ling
King of Ling
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:14 pm
Posts: 1938
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: Australia
The two posts above pretty much cover it. Both have a sandwich dial and a display back, but they wear somewhat differently. The 1950 case of the 312 sits higher and feels larger on the wrist to me. Both great watches but the 312 is better value if you ask me.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
boogiebot
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:11 pm 
Offline
King of Ling
King of Ling

Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:58 pm
Posts: 2767
Likes: 5 posts
Liked in: 50 posts
Thanks for the info guys. You know I have to ask so what is th merl on both piecece?

Edit. Is there a Pam that uses 1950 case with seconds minutes hours and is automatic with no date?
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
RJRJRJ
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:09 am 
Offline
Wild Ling, You Make my Heart Sing!
Wild Ling, You Make my Heart Sing!
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:27 pm
Posts: 4302
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: Los Angeles
boogiebot wrote:
Thanks for the info guys. You know I have to ask so what is th merl on both piecece?

Edit. Is there a Pam that uses 1950 case with seconds minutes hours and is automatic with no date?


I dont know, but to give you perspective, the 1950 case is usually only used on some in-house pieces and pieces with nice complications. i.e. the more expensive models.

_________________
-RJ
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
boogiebot
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:34 am 
Offline
King of Ling
King of Ling

Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:58 pm
Posts: 2767
Likes: 5 posts
Liked in: 50 posts
cool thanks RJ
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Koz
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:18 am 
Offline
Breitling Fanatic
Breitling Fanatic
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:23 am
Posts: 206
Likes: 1 post
Liked in: 1 post
Location: New York
I'm looking at both watches as we speak, I'm going to end up going with the PAM 111 because I just bought a Super Avenger and cant afford the 3 grand more. But like said above, the 312 is the way to go. I just tried on one in New York City over the weekend, and to say the least I was blown away.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
boogiebot
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:39 am 
Offline
King of Ling
King of Ling

Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:58 pm
Posts: 2767
Likes: 5 posts
Liked in: 50 posts
Koz wrote:
I'm looking at both watches as we speak, I'm going to end up going with the PAM 111 because I just bought a Super Avenger and cant afford the 3 grand more. But like said above, the 312 is the way to go. I just tried on one in New York City over the weekend, and to say the least I was blown away.



312 is a great piece. so are you saying the price difference between the 111 and 312 is 3G?
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Koz
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:44 am 
Offline
Breitling Fanatic
Breitling Fanatic
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:23 am
Posts: 206
Likes: 1 post
Liked in: 1 post
Location: New York
boogiebot wrote:
Koz wrote:
I'm looking at both watches as we speak, I'm going to end up going with the PAM 111 because I just bought a Super Avenger and cant afford the 3 grand more. But like said above, the 312 is the way to go. I just tried on one in New York City over the weekend, and to say the least I was blown away.



312 is a great piece. so are you saying the price difference between the 111 and 312 is 3G?


for both being preowned yes? as far as I seen on forums. I could be wrong.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
RJRJRJ
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:53 pm 
Offline
Wild Ling, You Make my Heart Sing!
Wild Ling, You Make my Heart Sing!
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:27 pm
Posts: 4302
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Location: Los Angeles
Koz wrote:
boogiebot wrote:
Koz wrote:
I'm looking at both watches as we speak, I'm going to end up going with the PAM 111 because I just bought a Super Avenger and cant afford the 3 grand more. But like said above, the 312 is the way to go. I just tried on one in New York City over the weekend, and to say the least I was blown away.



312 is a great piece. so are you saying the price difference between the 111 and 312 is 3G?


for both being preowned yes? as far as I seen on forums. I could be wrong.


312 retails for $7400 and 111 for $5600. I think used, the difference is about $1500. (5.5k vs. 4k).

_________________
-RJ
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Koz
 Post subject: Re: pam 111 vs 312
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:04 pm 
Offline
Breitling Fanatic
Breitling Fanatic
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:23 am
Posts: 206
Likes: 1 post
Liked in: 1 post
Location: New York
If I can find a 312 for 5.5k I will be a happy man.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 12 posts ] 

Board index » General Watch Discussion » General Watch Discussion

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 26 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
 




Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group