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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:05 am 
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Hallo,

I'm trying to help someone on a Dutch wachten forum,

https://www.horlogeforum.nl/t/breitling ... -40/346677

Can You tell me (and him) if hé bought a fake or a Franken Breitling?

Thanks


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I think he bought a fake. No Breitling serial numbers like that on Breitling of that age. Breitling started using serial numbers in 1944 and they started as 563xxx. The movement bright would not have been signed before then, and I personally don’t recognise that style of branding to the bridge. If it was before 1945 it wouldn’t have the signed bridge.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:33 am 
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I'm not sure that Breitling started with serialnumbers in 1945.
The serialnumbers pre 1945 are no longer available, that is sure.

The signed bridge does seems off for that period. What about the marking "fond acier inoxidable" inside the back cover?
I would expect this on the outside instead of the inside.


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paca wrote:
I'm not sure that Breitling started with serialnumbers in 1945.
The serialnumbers pre 1945 are no longer available, that is sure.

The signed bridge does seems off for that period. What about the marking "fond acier inoxidable" inside the back cover?
I would expect this on the outside instead of the inside.


The venus 170 was invented in 1942, so it can't be older than that. Breitling serial number for 1944 is a range of 563659 to 568959. The caseback number of 223207 makes no sense in terms of trends. The other number on the caseback also has no context in Breitling numbering system. My watches from the 1940s have numbering on the outer caseback, not inner, and they are clearly marked with a 3 digit reference number. The inside of your friends caseback has also been altered with a rotary sanding bit. The Breitling logo looks to be engraved, not stamped.

If you want to convince yourself its pre-1944, why does it have a signed bridge?



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Thanks, so thee are a lot of red flags on this watch, that is for sure now.

The seller said it was pre 1942, so that can't be.

I hope he can get is mony back on this one.


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