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| Author: | danpalm [ Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
Hi there, I'm another non-expert coming here to ask for any input about the authenticity of a watch I have. Please forgive me if it is an obvious fake or something. The photos I took were too big to post here, so I put them on Imgur: https://imgur.com/a/vaB7QKn (if you want me to make lower quality ones to post here directly then I can do that) Notes: - I don't think the strap is original so I didn't take photos of it - The hands and face are illuminated with superluminova or similar, not tritium. I have read that sometimes people have this applied after the tritium has decayed. Is that true and/or common? Or is this a obvious sign of a replica? Also, the illumination is a lot weaker than a modern Seiko watch I have after being exposed to the same light. - The screen doesn't feel like glass or crystal. Thanks so much for taking the time to read this! I'd really appreciate any feedback. I can take more photos if that would be helpful. |
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| Author: | Waynepjr1 [ Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
What is fine, straps are not important... nice example. Wayne |
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| Author: | davedc74 [ Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
Wayne you missed something — the caseback is from an 806...so not completely correct I fear. |
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| Author: | danpalm [ Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
davedc74 wrote: Wayne you missed something — the caseback is from an 806...so not completely correct I fear. Ah, what should the caseback be? |
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| Author: | davedc74 [ Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
809 if it’s a cosmonaute. Can you confirm it has a 24 hour movement? |
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| Author: | danpalm [ Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
davedc74 wrote: 809 if it’s a cosmonaute. Can you confirm it has a 24 hour movement? Ah okay. Yeah, I can confirm it actually has a 24 hour movement. |
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| Author: | arcadelt [ Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
Although there is insufficient clarity in the photos, the lugs look like they are missing the sharp edges, so likely the watch has been polished/re-brushed at some point...although not badly. Dial looks clean and the crystal is made of plexiglass, hence why it doesn’t feel like glass. |
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| Author: | danpalm [ Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
Thanks everyone for the info! I tried to get a better photo of the lugs but I had trouble due to my camera and the lighting. |
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| Author: | darkstar_xiii [ Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809. |
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
darkstar_xiii wrote: The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809. It was indeed. Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com |
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| Author: | darkstar_xiii [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
Kurt B wrote: darkstar_xiii wrote: The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809. It was indeed. Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com Funnily enough, I came to the conclusion that the SMEB wasn't available on the 809 based upon info from your Navitimer timeline. |
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| Author: | buddman [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
darkstar_xiii wrote: Kurt B wrote: darkstar_xiii wrote: The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809. It was indeed. Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com Funnily enough, I came to the conclusion that the SMEB wasn't available on the 809 based upon info from your Navitimer timeline. I have one on a 1965 serial so that's restriction to 1964 isn't precisely correct either. I think I recall Kurt saying he was going to update the timeline and knowledge base as he's learned and discovered more since his original publication. |
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
darkstar_xiii wrote: Kurt B wrote: darkstar_xiii wrote: The bezel looks like a SMEB, which I don’t think was available on the 809. It was indeed. Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com Funnily enough, I came to the conclusion that the SMEB wasn't available on the 809 based upon info from your Navitimer timeline. That is a correct observation. My timeline is constantly being worked on to improve it, and it’s not long ago I realized that there was SMEB 809’s. Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com |
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| Author: | waterproofpt [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
Much to be learned (and appreciated) from these discussions of authenticity, especially when the details of the ‘whys’ are elaborated on. Forgive my lack of knowledge though. What is SMEB ? I can only come up with “small beaded edge bezel” ... but pretty sure that’s not correct. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Kurt B [ Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Navitimer 806 Cosmonaute Authenticity |
waterproofpt wrote: Much to be learned (and appreciated) from these discussions of authenticity, especially when the details of the ‘whys’ are elaborated on. Forgive my lack of knowledge though. What is SMEB ? I can only come up with “small beaded edge bezel” ... but pretty sure that’s not correct. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Special Milled Edge Bezel Kurt B http://www.kurt-b.com |
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