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Breitling with singer stamp on movement?
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Author:  diccon [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  Breitling with singer stamp on movement?
Hello everyone, I am new to the forum, and a bit of a vintage watch newb, but I am hoping to gain knowledge by reading as much as I can from more experienced collectors. I have come across an add for a 785, which looks good as far as my limited knowledge goes, except that the movement is stamped "singer", which I have never seen before. Is this a breitling case with another movement inside? In addition all the other 785s I can find seem to have dates, whereas this does not, is that suspicious?

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Thanks in advance for your help.
Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling with singer stamp on movement?
this is a fake, although it has a serial (period correct even) and a ref. stamping ;)
Author:  saabreit [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling with singer stamp on movement?
I would not call it a fake, but more a Franken ...
The type and SN are period correct , and they were used indistinctively for Breitling and Singer...but 788 was a tricompax , so we would not find a bicompax caliber in a tricompax case .
We know that Breitling was manufacturing some versions under the brand Singer for ottoman/turkish market until ... not after 1950 , and the name engraved on the caseback sounds turkish .
The Singer mark on the chrono bridge corresponds to other Singer marks seen on other watches , so it looks original to me , exactly like the Venus 175 of my Singer Chrnomat 769 .
The dial is clearly a reprint .
So 2/3 of good parts separately, but putting them together results in a frankenwatch
Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling with singer stamp on movement?
Phil, ref. 788 is a WP case.
absolutely fake.
Author:  saabreit [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling with singer stamp on movement?
Sorry Fred , I was so focused on the V175with Singer bridge that I missed the flat pushers . Obviously, mushroom pushers on a 788 , I only drink water but sometime you could doubt
Author:  diccon [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling with singer stamp on movement?
Thanks for your detailed replies!
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