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Author:  CLOCKMAN [ Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  vintage breitling identification
Hi There
I am new to this forum I hope someone can give me more information about this watch that was being sold as a singer breitling 734 watch please look at the following link at this watch it was explained as a breitling watch from 1939 made by breitling for the Turkish market where breitling was not know but watch is claimed to been made by breitling but dial signed singer can anyone give me anyone give me more information on this watch and is it made by breitling any information would be appreciated
link is as follows

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-SING ... 1758157475

Many thanks
Patrick
Author:  Dracha [ Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vintage breitling identification
even if this watch was made by Breitling (and I see no signs or evidence of that) there's no way of knowing

case makers made cases for multiple brands
movement makers sold their movements to anyone
dial printers printed for whomever wanted them
hand makers has a large catalog to choose from

its an unsubstantiated story told by the seller as far as I am concerned ?
Author:  saabreit [ Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vintage breitling identification
René,
Maybe unsubstanciated story from your point of view, but I quote it from my side . I am 100% sure that some 769 and 734 branded SINGER were sold on turkish market until 1945 - 1950 , not sure of the limit date .
Here are my reasons .
I personally bought a very early Chronomat 769 SN484114, restoration project condition , on eBay in 2013 - seller was in Greece . It is triple marked SINGER , nowhere on it appears any Breitling brand ....despite it is clearly a Breitling production.
I made my little inquiry , and it is a fact that since 1950( circa ) LG Breitling used the brand SINGER on the turkish market - or more precisely on the Ottoman Empire . It is just 7:30 am and my mind is not enough clear to remember the difference btw ottoman empire and actual Turkey , but it is linked to some events happened in Europe just before the mid of 20th century :guns:
I spoke about that with a turkish native watch fellow here and he got similar informations about Singer - Breitling .
I got similar informations from a turkish selller in Istanbul , and I have seen 2 or 3 ( different ) Singer 734 for sale on eBay . On the pics they are really similar to early version of the Breitling 734 - the military version shown in the Breitling EIGHT section of the 1942 catalog .
Author:  CLOCKMAN [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vintage breitling identification
Thank you both for your opinions for my questions about singer breitling watch I will need to try and get more information about singer breitling partnership.
Dose anyone else know of any other sites links for more information about this watch or have anymore information please.
Many thanks
Patrick.
Author:  Dracha [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vintage breitling identification
CLOCKMAN wrote:
Dose anyone else know of any other sites links for more information about this watch or have anymore information please.


this is actually the best place on the interwebs for anything vintage breitling , I doubt you will find more info elsewhere
Author:  davedc74 [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vintage breitling identification
I have seen, with my own eyes, a dual-branded 769 in stainless steel at watch shop in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul. It was all correct (though overpriced and with a faded dial).
Author:  CLOCKMAN [ Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vintage breitling identification
Hi There everybody

Thank you for all your reply's to my post have tried to find out more about singer/breitling relationship for watches for Turkish market as you have said, but limited information even on this forum if anyone can give me more links it would be appreciated, as I have bought this watch it was relisted watch from ebay from same seller at a much lower price, was put through as an auction lot so same watch, it is an nice watch works fine I am delighted with watch I am a collector of vintage watches always liked early chronographs especially the 3 dial ones.
So didn't buy due to link with breitling but because it was a very nice vintage 3 dial chronograph with vintage venus movement not seen that often at this age and period.
If it can be linked to breitling then its a bonus.
So if there is anyone out there with any more information or links please let me know.
Many thanks
Patrick.
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