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Author:  carrousel [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Chrono-matic Bullhead 2117

Hi guys,

I just came across a Chrono-matic Bullhead Ref. 2117 by a private seller in Thailand (I'm based here). I own a Navitimer, but am very new to vintage pieces, and also to this forum. Do you find anything of this watch fake or non-original? (I don't mind the strap and buckle though.) Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.

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Author:  saabreit [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chrono-matic Bullhead 2117

Nice catch , congrats!
H & M hands come from a Navitimer 7806 , correct ones for Pult are orange on white batons .

Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chrono-matic Bullhead 2117

as Phil says, basically a very nice looking and rare piece, the main hands are incorrect - correct hands can and should be found.

to really evaluate the watch we would need a movement shot to make sure the movement is correct.

Author:  carrousel [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chrono-matic Bullhead 2117

Phil! WatchFred! Thank you.

I haven't set the deal with the seller yet. For the movement's picture, I'll ask him once I've decided to buy it. The issue now is how and where I can find the correct hands. I googled and looked through ebay but couldn't find them. Any advice about this?

Author:  saabreit [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chrono-matic Bullhead 2117

Get it opened before setting the price! Movement picture will allow you to check if the movement has the proper engravings - Breitling Cal 11 ( if movement color is silver ) or Cal 12 ( if movement color is gold ) . Many Bullheads have been assembled individually by using spares a long time after L G Breitling closure . No matter if it is a Cal 11 or 12 inside . if you do not see the correct engravings, it is not a reason to cancel the deal, but a good reason to negociate a lower price . Some engraved genuine parts are sometimes popping up but not often . For genuine hands , I remember that significant NOS quantities have been sold out in 2014 - 2015 by watchcoaustralia / abouttime.ch , so there is a reasonable chance that some will pop up on eBay in the near future .
Estimated price cut due just to non original hands = -200€ / if also non original chronograph bridge => - 600 to 800€

Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Chrono-matic Bullhead 2117

message me re hands if you've decided to buy the watch; can help

Author:  carrousel [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Chrono-matic Bullhead 2117

Thank you so much

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