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| Author: | rogern [ Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | 1940's Breitling Venus 170 Real/Fake Questions |
Hi All, First-timer here, I appreciate your help in advance! I posted this last night in the NAWCC forum: http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?1318 ... &p=1018449 ...you can see a bit of the discussion. My main questions are: - The font of the numbers on the face don't line up with anything I can otherwise find on the internet. There do seem to be quite a few models in this era and quite a bit of variety, but it's got me thinking... UPDATE on this: interestingly, the font face lines up with a post on this forum last night: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=60020 ...and the plot thickens: I bought mine from the same seller - There's no signature on the movement. Per this thread: http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?4...no-w-Venus-170 ...apparently that's not a big deal, but I'm wondering if anyone else has an opinion since that was quite a few years ago. That said, the case back is stamped. Here are images of the watch: http://imgur.com/a/9YaHD Thanks! Roger |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1940's Breitling Venus 170 Real/Fake Questions |
sorry but this is a fake This has nothing to do with Breitling and that watch never saw the inside of the Breitling factory .. ever |
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| Author: | rogern [ Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1940's Breitling Venus 170 Real/Fake Questions |
Thanks Dracha. I'd love your thought process, but I've taken measures to get a refund. I have another datapoint of "fake" IRL, so there's smoke and fire. Bummed out, because it's a beautiful piece, otherwise. |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1940's Breitling Venus 170 Real/Fake Questions |
rogern wrote: I'd love your thought process, reference number incorrect Breitling logo on the dial incorrect case shape and size nothing like what B produced serial points to 1947 , watches were pretty well documented then , this one does not fit any of the documented watches |
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| Author: | vintage [ Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1940's Breitling Venus 170 Real/Fake Questions |
I have no doubt these 181's are authentic B's. I've seen enough of these over the years. Most examples have redone dials but there are a few originals out there. I was watching the OP's auction on Ebay and thought it was a nice looking piece. I wouldn't worry much about the bridge engraving as it could be a later replacement. Original ones pop up sometimes so no big deal if you want to swap it out. http://breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=55448 https://auctionata.com/o/103732/breitling-chronograph-ref-181-switzerland-around-1947 https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/39534983_breitling-chronograph-watch-ref-181 |
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| Author: | Dracha [ Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1940's Breitling Venus 170 Real/Fake Questions |
Well I stand corrected , sorry Rogern for the confusion and misinformation |
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