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Author:  bibpi [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:30 am ]
Post subject:  Need help for a vintage Breitling authenticity

Can anyone help provide some insight on the authenticity of this Breitling?

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Tanks!

Author:  Dracha [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help for a vintage Breitling authenticity

would like to see a much better (more in focus) picture of the dial and the inside of the caseback

but my first reaction is that its not genuine and fake

Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help for a vintage Breitling authenticity

dial clearly refinished, hands incorrect, no ref. & serial outside the caseback.....
walk away

Author:  bibpi [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help for a vintage Breitling authenticity

Thanks for your answers.
I do not have a picture of the inside of the caseback. Is it possible that the reference and serial number are inside the caseback?

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Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:53 am ]
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would surprise me very much for ref. 17x Venus models. as said, dial & hands are clearly incorrect too.
yes, the price is tempting, but the watch isn't.

Author:  bibpi [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:05 am ]
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Ok. It looks pretty nice, but for a fake one...
For you, the venus calibre is also fake?

Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:39 am ]
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no, it is an authentic cal. 170

Author:  bibpi [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:54 am ]
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Is it a cal. 170 or 188?

Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:59 am ]
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my error, 188 !

launched late 1940s, so clearly a period where all B had ref. numbers outside the caseback

Author:  bibpi [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help for a vintage Breitling authenticity

Tanks a lot.
Just a newbie question.
The reference couldn't have diasappear following a polishing of the caseback?

Author:  bibpi [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help for a vintage Breitling authenticity

I can't find the info.
When has the cal. 188 been launched (I found a Venus 188 from 1945 here : http://www.breitling-museum.com/1940-1949.html).

Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help for a vintage Breitling authenticity

no clear info, 1948 was our assumption as the earliest launch date - claimed by Ranfft, other sources claim 1949.
any reference to that site is dangerous, 80% plus fakes.

Author:  chronodeco [ Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help for a vintage Breitling authenticity

We see this over and over and over... someone swept up by a watch like being in the grip of some kind of religion. A of true believer that just can't let it go!

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