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Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:10 am ]
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claim:
"Great for a collectors piece. Watch has been checked for accuracy & authenticity. In perfect working order. Keeping excellent time, all chronographs working as they should. Serial numbers & all markings intact. Includes Ralphswatches 1 yr. Warranty. Buy With Confidence. Please check my feedback we have been selling high-end watches on ebay since 2005.
ALL WATCHES ARE GUARANTEED GENUINE, WE DO NOT SELL COPY OR COUNTERFEIT WATCHES.
You are Buying from a Professional Watchmaker!!!
Guaranteed To Be ALL 100% Authentic!"

reality:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breitling-Navit ... 19fc8e733c


and a re-Breitlinged O&W that Wayne found ....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191524920459?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Author:  saabreit [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:19 am ]
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Shame on those " professionals" !

Author:  John90 [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:21 am ]
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Disgraceful, well done friends

Author:  Eric_navi [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:24 pm ]
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I saw the O&W piece, and was confused by the dial. What exactly was done to it?

Author:  buddman [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:50 pm ]
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I too wanted to understand how you know it was an O&W piece....

Author:  saabreit [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:58 pm ]
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O&W were using an ungraved inside caseback !

Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:00 pm ]
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saw engraved ones, Phil.
clearly NOT a Breitling case, incorrectly refinished dial, horrible piece.

Author:  buddman [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:23 pm ]
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Still confused. Yes dial is horrible, all agree its not Breitling, but still missing the O&W connection. I had thought the Aviaton cases back in the day were same as Breitling.

Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:44 pm ]
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those that Wajs bought from the Breitling stock, not those he manufactured in the decades afterwards.

here they are, none of these are original Breitling.

http://www.chronotime.ch/9601/index.html

Author:  Waynepjr1 [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:20 pm ]
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Some people think that O&W just made their version of the Navi till the parts they bought ran out but that was not the case. They made these for a LONG time....

Wayne

Author:  WatchFred [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:11 am ]
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Phil, David, here the "source"; recent O&W Aviation beaded bezel case:

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and here's one w/ the "Aviation" added, R7736

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and here's the OWling on ebay, btw., seems to be an Aviation strap too.

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Author:  buddman [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:50 am ]
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Perfect. Now I see the association.

Author:  Waynepjr1 [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:15 am ]
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Now you can see why the seller was having such a hard time with how to name this watch. LOL!!

He knows it is wrong from the start!!!

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