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Author:  Dracha [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:24 am ]
Post subject:  Franken ? Cadette
I picked this up a few weeks ago and it arrived today

had a funny feeling which wont go away and our most respected Cadette expert cant (wont) verify it either and his fence is tipping to franken at best

I am sending it back to the seller through ebay/paypal but wanted to share the somewhat blurry pics (my appologies for the pic quality ;) so everyone can make their own mind up

looks great !

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but whats this ?

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I have never seen or read about a ref 7188 ?

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inside caseback stamping a bit too uniform as well
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bridge marking almost certainly a later addition

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for the rest movement looks period correct

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and I do not believe the dial is a reprint

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Author:  WatchFred [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Franken ? Cadette
the "later addition" of the bridge stamping is bothering too, by late 1948 I'd expect the movement to be signed, but typically not mixing script dial and capitals bridge.
Author:  vintage [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Franken ? Cadette
I think the Valjoux movement is too early for the watch. Most likely would have been a Venus 175 like everything else from that period with two sub registers. Could also be a case of someone engraving the wrong numbers on the back or using a different back on an 1100 series chrono from later on.
Author:  WatchFred [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Franken ? Cadette
is it a 7730, not a Venus 188 ? your eyes are better than mine, Paul !

the V188 was launched around that time, so theoretically possible.
Author:  vintage [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Franken ? Cadette
WatchFred wrote:
is it a 7730, not a Venus 188 ? your eyes are better than mine, Paul !


I just assumed Valjoux but I think either is too early for 1948 and I thought not used until the 1950's with the 1100 series watches.
Author:  WatchFred [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Franken ? Cadette
had edited my post above while u were replying, as far as I know the Venus 188 was launched in 1948, so it COULD be theoretically possible to have a very early example here, but adding that to all the other inconsistencies ......
Author:  saabreit [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Franken ? Cadette
Any known case of wrong stamping on Cadette series , 7 in place of 1? Assuming that 7188 is for a 1188 , let me add that a Cadette 1188 would have a 45' counter, and not 30' .
Better often worst than good ! Probably a good base spoiled by later " improvements" => only good for parts now .
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