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summerpurchase · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:12 pm

Any thoughts here?

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1258938406

Thanks!

Waynepjr1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:15 pm

Fake, incorrect.

Wayne

summerpurchase · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:19 pm

Ok thanks - wouldnt have caught that one!

Out of curiosity (I trust you 100%) but what is amiss with it?

Dial even looked like it had some burn from the lume

Waynepjr1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:33 pm

Here is link to a real one owned by one of our members. The one on the Bay is a case made modern as you can clearly see. Dial is a knockoff. Are Chinese boys are something aren't they.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=54686

Wayne

summerpurchase · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:38 pm

Wow! Well...greatly appreciate the info - thank you!

Waynepjr1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:41 pm

Wayne

summerpurchase · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:01 pm

Also out of curiosity - what are your thoughts on this one? (Should I start new thread?)

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1363312809

Waynepjr1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:55 pm

Very doubtful, I asked for a movement image but note how they both have similar case backs, not good. These guys are getting good faking everything, even aging. These 3 handers are their bread and butter.

summerpurchase · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:59 pm

Good to know - will certainly skip out on this one as well.
Appreciate the info again.

Waynepjr1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:10 pm

They like to choice these 40's watches because they did not have signed cases for the most part or movements making it just the dials to work around. As a rule, avoid all of these unless you know for sure! Not much of a market for the 3 handers but for the hardcore collector.

Wayne

Waynepjr1 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:01 am

I am one who is NOT afraid to say when he is wrong. And I am wrong here on both of these it sure does seem to be the case. As pointed out the me by Vintage, it does appear that both are good pieces.
As you can see from the 123 to the 122, the type of steel used back in the day was a lesser quality and easy to pit and wear much easier. The 123 up for auction is an example of one that was put away and not worn.
Both should be fine to bid on and I apologize for the confusing on this one. Here is a much better case back image provided by Vintage.

Wayne

summerpurchase · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:10 pm

Wow! Ok - well I am learning here this is good. I think I will still probably refrain from bidding anyway though.

Again - thanks - this forum is very valuable.

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