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| Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | oh, Bill. again. Navitimer & ref. 790 |
deep respect for his knowledge and collection, but have to warn members about those two. "all original" '67 Navitimer, bad & incorrect refinished sliderule w/ a "boxed 10" dial. http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1967-ST ... 35d806fd4b 18k Premier ref. 790; badly refinished dial and VERY incorrect hands. http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1946-SO ... 35d806d286 yes, there are tons of fakes out there at any given moment, or worse FrankenLings than these two, but Bill used to be the most (only?) trusted source on ebay and not mentioning the incorrect components and calling those "all original" is quite ....... wrong. |
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| Author: | buddman [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oh, Bill. again. Navitimer & ref. 790 |
Fred - once the slide rules picked up the red marks after/at 1967, are there any variants? If I think that the slide rule is the same from the creation if the watch until 1967, and then the red markings appear and it is then the same until 1979-ish, is that wrong? I ask because I know you can buy NOS red marked sliderules that were described to me as "for 1970 onwards"' so is there a difference between 1967 and 1970? If not why someone would refurbish them when NOS is available? |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oh, Bill. again. Navitimer & ref. 790 |
yes, there are variations, would not otherwise claim that's incorrect ? but this isn't an original "red marks" replacement, it's a refinished sliderule too. why not buy an original replacement ? because it's cheaper ? the "boxed" 10 dials had - surprise - "boxed 10" sliderules, red on SS, orange on 18k & GP btw; very, very hard to find - but should be mentioned, of course. here's an example: 
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| Author: | cruvon [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oh, Bill. again. Navitimer & ref. 790 |
Thanks for spotting that Fred, after his first few watches described inaccurately in the guise of being a Breitling expert, I wouldn't touch any offering from him, even if genuine! |
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| Author: | buddman [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oh, Bill. again. Navitimer & ref. 790 |
WatchFred wrote: yes, there are variations, would not otherwise claim that's incorrect ? Thanks Fred. I just didn't know why it was incorrect, so thanks for the explanation. |
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| Author: | Waynepjr1 [ Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oh, Bill. again. Navitimer & ref. 790 |
The hands on the 790 gave me a moment of pause, as did the bezel on the Navi that looked like it was used to polish concrete. Those two items were just jump in your face, glaring items of concern for me. All combined, and still the prices bids to rise, I have to wonder about who is bidding or who is bumping up the bids? Or a combo? Mystifying. Wayne |
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| Author: | dinobaggio [ Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oh, Bill. again. Navitimer & ref. 790 |
It seems all Bills navis follow the same pattern, they all make more money than expected! Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | up2nogood [ Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: oh, Bill. again. Navitimer & ref. 790 |
I think that's exactly why legitimacy has become less important. |
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