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Author:  rick [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:37 am ]
Post subject:  Is this Franken

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-full-si ... 35d01f3046

Author:  Dracha [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:42 am ]
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out of my depth here , couldnt tell you if my life depended on it but it looks way too new for such an old piece ?

Author:  WatchFred [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:04 am ]
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unchartered territory. but the signed bridge & the combination of Montbrillant & Breitling signature are clearly wrong for me.
never saw such a case engraving.

Author:  rick [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:12 am ]
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WatchFred wrote:
unchartered territory. but the signed bridge & the combination of Montbrillant & Breitling signature are clearly wrong for me.
never saw such a case engraving.


Fred The case back appears to have the logo raised thru casting and not engraved in. looks kind of odd!

Author:  vintage [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:53 am ]
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I have never seen anything 100% authentic Breitling come out of Uruguay. They do originate a lot of fakes and have a dial manufacturer gainfully employed. Reason enough to assume it's a fake. If this watch had any chance at all of being original it more than likely would not say Breitling on the dial (which looks sloppy in this case) and would be too early to have a signed bridge. The size being 38mm is very large for early pieces. Pass on this one.

Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:33 am ]
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Agree with all that has been said, but the case does look period correct. If it were smaller then I would have suggested a redial and Breitling added to the movement.

Author:  rick [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:44 am ]
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Is the overall concensus it is fake. I am intrigued by the raised letters in the case back. I have never seen a casting like that!

Author:  Dracha [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:56 am ]
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Rick,
what do you mean by 'raised' ? , I see them stamped in , like any other case marking , and not raised (higher than the surrounding metal)

Author:  rick [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:31 am ]
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Rene The shadowing around the letters gives them the appearance that they are above the surface of the inside back. In dentistry we refer to it as a positive image that you can obtain thru a casting or pressed in a mold.

Author:  Dracha [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:36 am ]
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thats what I thought you meant, I (my eyes and brain) dont see it that way , I see them below the surface

Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:06 am ]
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Dracha wrote:
thats what I thought you meant, I (my eyes and brain) dont see it that way , I see them below the surface


Agreed - it looks stamped to me too.

Author:  Bill in Sacramento [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:11 am ]
Post subject:  I noticed this one, too.

And I note that the Great Charlatan has fallen for this one before. It's a bad gag. No watchmaker has ever put his advertising copy on the inside caseback. In this instance, the spelling is wrong, if you don't mind the absent "s"es.

Author:  rick [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:17 am ]
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My eyes must be playing games on me!

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