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Author:  Moonphasefan [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  Breitling moonphase is it real?
Hi, long time reader first time entering the vintage world. Thoughts on this vintage breitling, is it real? It has venus 206 movement
Author:  Moonphasefan [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling moonphase is it real?
And the face
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:16 am ]
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Not the greatest photos but I don't see anything obviously wrong with it.
Author:  Moonphasefan [ Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:02 pm ]
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Thank you, I will put better photos ASAP.

I see the topic was moved in the Fake/Franken identification section, I hope this one is not one? :)

All feedback appreciated.

Thanks again
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling moonphase is it real?
Moonphasefan wrote:
I see the topic was moved in the Fake/Franken identification section, I hope this one is not one? :)


You asked if it was real, that's where 'is it real' threads go, no conspiracy or subtle message :lol: :wink:
Author:  Bill in Sacramento [ Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  What I see wrong with it is . . .
1. A 1956 serial number with a script "Breitling" dial.
2. A reference number that should be "239 95" and not "239 24."

Just sayin'
Author:  augstein [ Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling moonphase is it real?
Excuse Bill if I disturb you. This watch is not from 1956, it from 1951, Breitling used (for whatever reason) for these watches the serial numbers of chronographs, not the serial numbers of 3-hand watches (non-chronographes), so the old script (Breitling) is absolutly correct on this watch.

Also the reference number is ok, they exist with 239 95 and 239 24, I have seen 3 more in past with 239 24
Author:  Bill in Sacramento [ Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:21 am ]
Post subject:  You can't disturb me,
it's not my watch. It's the first I've heard of a confusion of serial numbers, which seems implausible for the Breitling company and completely believable for the unfortunate alternative. You'll have to tell me what "24" stands for, since it is not otherwise documented.

You seem loyal to your watch. Please tell us its history and how you it came to you. Where are these other mysterious "24"s?
Author:  Roffensian [ Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You can't disturb me,
Bill in Sacramento wrote:
it's not my watch. It's the first I've heard of a confusion of serial numbers, which seems implausible for the Breitling company and completely believable for the unfortunate alternative. You'll have to tell me what "24" stands for, since it is not otherwise documented.

You seem loyal to your watch. Please tell us its history and how you it came to you. Where are these other mysterious "24"s?


augstein isn't the OP,he's the one of the personas that I didn't ban previously because I thought he had left us. I have now corrected that oversight.

I'll confess that I missed the 24 (there are 24 suffix pieces but they all have four digit first parts), although the quality of the stamping looks very good if it's not right. Better dial photo would certainly help.
Author:  Dracha [ Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You can't disturb me,
Roffensian wrote:

augstein isn't the OP,he's the one of the personas that I didn't ban previously because I thought he had left us. I have now corrected that oversight.



I know I have absolutely no say in the ban , and I have had more then 1 'disagreements' with the person, he even called me a thief and a liar .... but

If he behaves , and approaches people in the best possible way, I don't mind it being able to post
Author:  Roffensian [ Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You can't disturb me,
Dracha wrote:
Roffensian wrote:

augstein isn't the OP,he's the one of the personas that I didn't ban previously because I thought he had left us. I have now corrected that oversight.



I know I have absolutely no say in the ban , and I have had more then 1 'disagreements' with the person, he even called me a thief and a liar .... but

If he behaves , and approaches people in the best possible way, I don't mind it being able to post



Fair enough Rene, and we tried very hard not to ban the original account several years ago, to the point where I was criticised for not banning him. Once he was banned he insisted on registering multiple additional user accounts which is a clear additional breach of the rules and at this point I have no patience left for him.
Author:  Dracha [ Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You can't disturb me,
Roffensian wrote:
and at this point I have no patience left for him.


no argument from me Roff
Author:  Moonphasefan [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling moonphase is it real?
Hi, thanks for all the replies so far. I have made some HQ photos which I hope will help with identification of this watch. Thanks
Author:  Roffensian [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling moonphase is it real?
Hmmm.

The thin caseback is problematic for me - you can see the stamping come through and that's 'un-Breitling' like. However, am I right in thinking that the aging on the dial is on top of the Breitling on the dial - looks like it on the tail of the 'e'?
Author:  cal_11 [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breitling moonphase is it real?
Agree with Roff!

Add: No Breitling marking the back or inside, no signed movement... strange.

Cal_11
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