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Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
Cool fact number 1 - they aren't all Breitlings Cool fact number 2 - meaningful assistance is going to require inside and outside caseback shots and movement pictures. |
Author: | chronodeco [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
The dial on the triple date is not too "cool" - a really POOR refinishing job! Most likely a fake. |
Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
+1 on this #4 fake or botched redial too. "cool" enough ? |
Author: | Roffensian [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
Yeah I immediately assumed that 3 and 4 were duds. #1 is a less common and potentially nice piece but who knows with just dials. |
Author: | Bill in Sacramento [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Magic 8 Ball says . . . |
. . . the first one is a 1956 ref. 1190 with a redone dial on which the sub-registers are printed too small and "Giro d'Italia" has been added, well, just for fun, I guess. |
Author: | Dracha [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 8 Ball says . . . |
Bill in Sacramento wrote: "Giro d'Italia" has been added, well, just for fun, I guess. you dont believe these are watches that could (warning hypothesis) have been give to Giro D'italia stage winners ? They were official sponsors in the late 40ies to mid 50ies |
Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 8 Ball says . . . |
Dracha wrote: Bill in Sacramento wrote: "Giro d'Italia" has been added, well, just for fun, I guess. you dont believe these are watches that could (warning hypothesis) have been give to Giro D'italia stage winners ? They were official sponsors in the late 40ies to mid 50ies There was a Breitling Giro d'Italia; mid 1950s bought from the daughter of a Brit who worked as a sports journalist in the 1950s Bill is referring to the printing quality on the dial, me thinks. ![]() |
Author: | Roffensian [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
Giro D'Italia pieces can (obviously not going to say all are) definitely be real - there are a number of different pieces, many of them presented here over the years. |
Author: | Steviepro.wu [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
Thanks guys, interesting information there. What about the last picture? |
Author: | Roffensian [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
Steviepro.wu wrote: What about the last picture? As Fred already said...... WatchFred wrote: #4 fake or botched redial too.
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Author: | WatchFred [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
as Roff said in his first reply, we can only talk about the most obvious "tells" here - until we see movements and casebacks (ideally inside and outside) there is no way to tell if watches 1, 3 and 4 contain any authentic components; watch 2 seems to have a correct case, dial and hands are ok. |
Author: | Supermoto [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
You know you chaps are fantastic with your knowledge, I'm so glad that you are one step ahead of the game Hats off to you Phil |
Author: | Steviepro.wu [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Calling all Breitling Vintage experts Showoff your knowl |
Supermoto wrote: You know you chaps are fantastic with your knowledge, I'm so glad that you are one step ahead of the game Hats off to you Phil ![]() |
Author: | Bill in Sacramento [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Since we brought it up . . . |
Here's what I believe, and others are free to believe otherwise. Using the advertising and the words in The Book (pages 112-113), I believe Breitling sponsored bicycle races only in the years 1949-1952. I think the watches made to note sponsorship of the Giro d'Italia were marked "Tour d'Italie," odd as that may seem. I think Steviepro.wu's example shown here is just one of the "fun" pieces that someone has made up in recent years and some do show anomalies, like ill-fitting registers. Sorry that my image of that 1952 ad is completely illegible. |
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