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 Post subject: 2115 with 1808 caseback
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:30 am 
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http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&orig_cvip=true&item=151170828675

The seller has stopped his first auction. Now he is writing about the 1808-ref. Currently 3.000€!

A Franken (hard to believe) or a late spareparts-sampling-watch? Cal 11 with red datewheel is not uncommon...

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Cal.11 in a 2115 ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:58 am 
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WatchFred wrote:
Cal.11 in a 2115 ?


yes, I've also seen this sometimes in another early one. This is also a reason why I'm asking if this watch could be built from spareparts. Problem also: Wrong caseback so we can't estimate the maufacturing date.

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I suppose it's possible to modify a Cal 11 movement into a Cal 14 but there's enough wrong with this watch it could be a real money pit to get straight even if the parts were available. A put together watch at best.
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vintage wrote:
I suppose it's possible to modify a Cal 11 movement into a Cal 14 but there's enough wrong with this watch it could be a real money pit to get straight even if the parts were available. A put together watch at best.

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listing ended, so afraid somebody has now spent a lot of money on a Franken.
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vintage wrote:
I suppose it's possible to modify a Cal 11 movement into a Cal 14 but there's enough wrong with this watch it could be a real money pit to get straight even if the parts were available. A put together watch at best.


Vintage: Please let us know, what's wrong except the caseback...

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cal_11 wrote:
vintage wrote:
I suppose it's possible to modify a Cal 11 movement into a Cal 14 but there's enough wrong with this watch it could be a real money pit to get straight even if the parts were available. A put together watch at best.


Vintage: Please let us know, what's wrong except the caseback...

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Well a 100% correct ref 2115 would have a Cal 14 GMT movement not a regular 12 hr Cal 11. In order to mount the extra GMT hand I would assume something has been done to the Cal 11 to make it all work.
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vintage wrote:
Well a 100% correct ref 2115 would have a Cal 14 GMT movement not a regular 12 hr Cal 11. In order to mount the extra GMT hand I would assume something has been done to the Cal 11 to make it all work.

Nothing uncommon for me. I've seen some 2115-models with cal 11 (serial numbers from 1969). Cal 14sx came end of 1969. If it was a early model, a Cal. 11 could be authentic. Problem here is the wrong caseback, so it's possible that someone has built this watch with parts....

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Also a cal 11:

[url]http://www.ebay.de/itm/Vintage-Breitling-GMT-Chronograph-2115-/151183846587?pt=UK_Jewellery_Watches_WatchAccessories_SpareParts_SM&hash=item2333426cbb
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