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| Author: | Grzegorzgr [ Sun May 26, 2013 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | ref 178 and ref 765 |
Is there any chance that these two are real? Very high feedback seller from Austria. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-BREIT ... 2ec83e5c1a http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-BREIT ... 2ec83e5a53 |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sun May 26, 2013 3:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ref 178 and ref 765 |
They look fundamentally sound to me. The 765 is more worrying as it should be marked Premier, and the bridge engraving looks wrong on that as well. 178 looks OK though as far as I can see. |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Sun May 26, 2013 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ref 178 and ref 765 |
Roffensian wrote: They look fundamentally sound to me. The 765 is more worrying as it should be marked Premier, and the bridge engraving looks wrong on that as well. 178 looks OK though as far as I can see. +1 on the watches, but this seller has sold a lot of frankenfakes in the past, these two are surprisingly correct for what I have learned to expect from him. |
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| Author: | vintage [ Mon May 27, 2013 4:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ref 178 and ref 765 |
I don't think the very early 765's have Premier on the dial and when I looked at this one earlier I thought the Premier on the movements bridge seemed a bit too early for that style bridge. It would have been most likely a plain bridge. I think it's been massaged a bit. |
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| Author: | Bill in Sacramento [ Mon May 27, 2013 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | I need more eyes on target. |
I think this 765 is a well-copied, South American creation, but I'd like to see how many points we agree about. Recall that my working hypothesis is that the South American creators use Richter to match numbers to models and examples. Fred is right about the seller, but given their high rate of turnover of inventory, I think they are just not knowledgeable. 1. The dial is definitely South American in origin. [The gap between the "e" and the "i" is a tell.] 2. The hands have been replaced. 3. The crown is signed and wrong. 4. "Breitling" has been added to the back. I don't know why the serial has been blotted out and not reported in the description. 5. Okay, and this comes from the lunatic fringe, I thought the case was right, but I think the beveling on the lugs might be added. In the images, does it look to you (as it does to me) that the one o'clock lug is not beveled completely like the other three? It could be the lighting (or my frequent delusions), but the several photos make that one look different. And, besides, it looks awfully pristine for a watch that otherwise needed a repainted dial. 6. What might be on the inside caseback? |
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