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Author:  Kailex [ Sun May 20, 2012 7:25 am ]
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http://www.ebay.de/itm/Breitling-Tricom ... 2570bd9359
Author:  Dracha [ Sun May 20, 2012 11:17 am ]
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what catches my eye , and I believe is incorrect is :

-: Premier on the dial instead of Datora
-: Has 785D on the back but Premier on the dial
-: very 'iffy' Breitling 'engraving' (scratches) on the back
-: has a '47/48 serial number (hard to read) but dial looks nothing like a '47 datora (unless there's multiple dial versions, which did happen)
-: where's the 1 through 31 day marks on the dial ?
-: '47 / '48 case lugs should be bevelled . this one doesnt have those

probably more but these stick out

here's a 1947 reference pic , Cruvon also has a very great example

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Author:  WatchFred [ Sun May 20, 2012 11:26 am ]
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little to add, though the last time I dared to question a piece, even only the valuation, it led to a rather strange discussion. Just should add that seller correya has a history of listing Frankenwatches.

Franken at best, hands too are wrong for the claimed period, though we have seen apparently authentic cases of later watch completion, but nothings leads me to believe a "Premier" Datora ever existed - adding the fact I never saw a GP Premier.
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun May 20, 2012 12:32 pm ]
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Agree with all of the above and don't much like the bridge engraving either.
Author:  Kailex [ Tue May 22, 2012 3:37 am ]
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Do you think it could be a real Datora, only with a wrong redone dial, an with a later engraving "BREITLING" on the back, or do you think, it never was a real Datora 785D ?
Author:  Dracha [ Tue May 22, 2012 4:25 am ]
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Kailex wrote:
it never was a real Datora 785D


that is what I think
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue May 22, 2012 4:27 am ]
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Dracha wrote:
Kailex wrote:
it never was a real Datora 785D


that is what I think


+1
Author:  WatchFred [ Tue May 22, 2012 4:46 am ]
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Roffensian wrote:
Dracha wrote:
Kailex wrote:
it never was a real Datora 785D


that is what I think


+1

+2
Author:  cruvon [ Tue May 22, 2012 4:53 am ]
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Dracha wrote:
what catches my eye , and I believe is incorrect is :

-: Premier on the dial instead of Datora
-: Has 785D on the back but Premier on the dial
-: very 'iffy' Breitling 'engraving' (scratches) on the back
-: has a '47/48 serial number (hard to read) but dial looks nothing like a '47 datora (unless there's multiple dial versions, which did happen)
-: where's the 1 through 31 day marks on the dial ?
-: '47 / '48 case lugs should be bevelled . this one doesnt have those

probably more but these stick out

here's a 1947 reference pic , Cruvon also has a very great example

Image

Image



Slurp, nice pics of your 785 Rene, I wish it could have had a group shot with mine when was at Craig's!
Author:  Kailex [ Tue May 22, 2012 8:02 am ]
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But the case shows all the characteristics which (only) Breitling has, and the Venus 191 caliber I know only in Breitling Datoras, no other brands.
Author:  Kailex [ Wed May 23, 2012 1:25 am ]
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Here an interesting add from the seller:

Frage: Hallo, where is the date on the dial of this "Datora" 23.05.12
Antwort: Hello Thank you for your question. You're right, this dial does not have the time of day. It was poorly restored? That's why seeing the cheapest. It is an excellent piece to restore the dial. thank you very much
Author:  Roffensian [ Wed May 23, 2012 4:54 am ]
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Author:  Kailex [ Wed May 23, 2012 7:30 am ]
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Quote:
But the case shows all the characteristics which (only) Breitling has, and the Venus 191 caliber I know only in Breitling Datoras, no other brands.


Roff, please tell me, if you know an other brand, who used the Venus 191 movement. :oops:
Author:  WatchFred [ Wed May 23, 2012 7:42 am ]
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Author:  pad119 [ Wed May 23, 2012 7:45 am ]
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Kailex wrote:
Quote:
But the case shows all the characteristics which (only) Breitling has, and the Venus 191 caliber I know only in Breitling Datoras, no other brands.


Roff, please tell me, if you know an other brand, who used the Venus 191 movement. :oops:



Might check this thread out (viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9401) - watch called a "Metric" appears to have a Venus 191 movement in it. But it also has Breitling stamped on the back, so someone could have easily mixed up movements and face plates.

At the end of the day, you are the purchaser. So if you are happy with the piece, that is all that matters. But be careful, there are lots of fakes out there.

Good luck!
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