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Author:  Jonspod [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:09 pm ]
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Hi guys,

Wonder if you can help ? Like the look of this watch but not sure if it is real or not. Hope you guys can help.

Many thanks

Jon


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Breitling-doc ... 2269wt_922
Author:  coxolfi [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:20 pm ]
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Look good but no référence on the case back .
Certainely a venus 170 inside...
But i m not a spécialist...
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:26 pm ]
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Garbage.

Breitling on the caseback is totally off, no reference number, serial number completely inconsistent with Breitling.

Movement may be from a later Breitling, but I don't think that the dial is correct - never seen that kind of subdial marking on a real one although the logo is good.
Author:  Jonspod [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:53 pm ]
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Could it be just a replaced case back that makes it look faker than it is ?? Or is it that I want it o be real !!

Jon
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:56 pm ]
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Jonspod wrote:
Could it be just a replaced case back that makes it look faker than it is ?? Or is it that I want it o be real !!

Jon



The latter.

That doesn't explain the inconsistency of age between dial and movement, and casebacks aren't really interchangeable.
Author:  WatchFred [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:13 pm ]
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Roffensian wrote:
Garbage.

Breitling on the caseback is totally off, no reference number, serial number completely inconsistent with Breitling.

Movement may be from a later Breitling, but I don't think that the dial is correct - never seen that kind of subdial marking on a real one although the logo is good.


:yeahthat
Author:  Jonspod [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:24 am ]
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Thanks guys for your comments. What do you think the watch is worth. I know that it not collectible but stil nice work. The seller said the following. ......

Well i was told that watch have been serviced at official Breitling repair center and was confirmed that it is genuine, movement made by Venus it is seen from balance plate, dial also have no sign that it is not genuine, I would look in another side of it if I have any suspision about that, case back also looks normal, if serial number looks of it could be that case back was changed from another watch through the years.

Thanks guys
Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:31 am ]
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worthless to a collector, the caseback story is bull.
worth to you ? only your decision; if it were "just a nice no name watch" without faking attempts it would be worth around 150 to 250 Euro
Author:  Jonspod [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:38 am ]
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Thanks for your input guys. Will leave the watch and continue search. How much would a nice Breitling Doctors watch cost from the 1940 just out of interest ??

J
Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:45 am ]
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have not seen a convincing one for some time, iirc there was a 178 from the UK some time ago w/ a refinished dial, went for around 700 Euro.

basically prices are similar to regular tachymeter dials, you will find quite a lot of Pulsometer Breitlings from the 60s and early 70s, early pieces are quite rare.

Regarding that watch you asked about, you might want to have the seller explain why he claims the serial number 70062 on his watch "dates it to 1947" ?
All documented Breitling serial numbers are 6 digit up to late 1964, 7 digit later, 1947 would be between 703562 and 717737
Author:  Jonspod [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:45 pm ]
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Thanks for the info Fred. I will have to keep an eye out for one then. I think the seller has no idea that it is fake but Is trying to maintain it value by suggesting any reason for the faults highlighted about. Let me know if you see any nice models anywhere.

Many thanks
J
Author:  pad119 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:06 pm ]
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Looks like the same watch is now being offered by a "brandon" in the US ebay website:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280852726156

:guns:
Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:14 pm ]
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no sense reporting this, as ebay will not remove it; some poor sod will be the proud owner of that fake ....
Author:  pad119 [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:16 am ]
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I reported it. Even if futile, at least my efforts will have vented my own disappointment in the seller's behavior.
Author:  DHopper71 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:22 am ]
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Still there, and unfortunately several people bidding on this junk. :x
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