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Author:  nietys [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:01 am ]
Post subject:  help with identification
First of all i´d like to say hello to all of you.
I´m quite a fan of vintage watches and got myself a vintage Breitling which im not sure about the date and if its fake or not.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. :mrgreen:
Author:  Roffensian [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
Is there a serial number on the inside of the caseback? That will help with dating. Hands aren't original, and I don't think that the crown is, but looks broadly correct. Not 100% sure about the bridge stamping, but the rest looks OK.
Author:  nietys [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
Roffensian wrote:
Is there a serial number on the inside of the caseback? That will help with dating. Hands aren't original, and I don't think that the crown is, but looks broadly correct. Not 100% sure about the bridge stamping, but the rest looks OK.


Thank you very much for your opinion! :)

I sadly cant provide a photo from inside the caseback yet, since the watch isnt arrived yet, its bought off the bay without a picture from the serial number.
Author:  WatchFred [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
looks like a rather late 1191, would assume late 60s, early 70s, bridge might be ok, saw similar. A 1191 with those same hands sold out of France this summer, was sure they were non original then, but this is a different watch out of Austria, so those hands might even be correct. As Roff said, we will be able to date it exactly when you post a pic of the serial no. that should be inside caseback. Congrats for the pickup !
Author:  nietys [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
WatchFred wrote:
looks like a rather late 1191, would assume late 60s, early 70s, bridge might be ok, saw similar. A 1191 with those same hands sold out of France this summer, was sure they were non original then, but this is a different watch out of Austria, so those hands might even be correct. As Roff said, we will be able to date it exactly when you post a pic of the serial no. that should be inside caseback. Congrats for the pickup !


Thanks for your opinion aswell!
Before reading few posts in this section i wasnt aware that there are so much fake breitlings around, even from those "old timers".

I will post a pic of the caseback asap.

best regards!
Author:  nietys [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
Got the watch, the inside of the case has the number: 898684, didnt manage to make a proper photo with the cam of the mobile phone yet.

best regards!
Author:  WatchFred [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
this would date it to a late 1958 production, quite surprising for this caseback & different from all other 1191s from this period I have seen, the one from France was much, much later, so Roff is definitely right regarding the hands being replacements.
Author:  Dracha [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
why does it look like the chrome is wearing off the case ?
the case should be solid SS
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
Dracha wrote:
why does it look like the chrome is wearing off the case ?
the case should be solid SS



Didn't notice that, but it does look like that on the lugs. Odd, but watch still looks otherwise correct and right for the period. I think that I'm OK with the caseback for '58.
Author:  nietys [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help with identification
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!

Yes indeed at the lugs the chrome is worn off, from what i see the case isnt solid steel.
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