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| Author: | cuervo [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | What about this chronograph ? |
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 1439.l2649 The case diameter is only 34 mm (normally 35 mm) and the stamped numbers on the case are very fat but correspond to existing reference and 1959 I think. Case must have been chromed on former gold plating. Is it authentic ? thanks |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What about this chronograph ? |
Franken at best. The Breitling on the caseback is an amateur attempt but script Breitling dial with block Breitling bridge is a no-no. |
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| Author: | cuervo [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What about this chronograph ? |
Roffensian wrote: Franken at best. The Breitling on the caseback is an amateur attempt but script Breitling dial with block Breitling bridge is a no-no. Thanks but what about the case number and reference ? they look very professional. Have they been later stamped and if so why isn't there the original numbers somewhere on the case ? |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What about this chronograph ? |
cuervo wrote: Roffensian wrote: Franken at best. The Breitling on the caseback is an amateur attempt but script Breitling dial with block Breitling bridge is a no-no. Thanks but what about the case number and reference ? they look very professional. Have they been later stamped and if so why isn't there the original numbers somewhere on the case ? Hence why I said Franken and not fake. There were 1189s with 30 minute subs, but I've not seen any with stamped block letter bridges. |
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| Author: | WatchFred [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What say you guys? Fake? |
Roffensian wrote: Franken at best. The Breitling on the caseback is an amateur attempt but script Breitling dial with block Breitling bridge is a no-no. 
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| Author: | cuervo [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What say you guys? Fake? |
WatchFred wrote: Roffensian wrote: Franken at best. The Breitling on the caseback is an amateur attempt but script Breitling dial with block Breitling bridge is a no-no. Do you know if 34 mm case diameter were made in 1950 as the case number indicates it's from 1950 (Richter book I just bought) ? What about the ref and case number on the back case: they are very "fat" and don't look others I have seen ? Are they original or stamped later to make believe it's a Breitling ? Case has been chromed on former gold plating. Thanks for your help |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What about this chronograph ? |
I don't have a problem with the case or the stamping. |
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| Author: | MOJO [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What about this chronograph ? |
hello, i'm new in collecting watches and would like to learn.. what is a "franken watch" ? (in this case for example) Thank you for your help. |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What about this chronograph ? |
MOJO wrote: hello, i'm new in collecting watches and would like to learn.. what is a "franken watch" ? (in this case for example) Thank you for your help. As in Frankenstein's monster - made up of parts of other watches. |
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| Author: | cuervo [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What about this chronograph ? |
Roffensian wrote: I don't have a problem with the case or the stamping. So do you consider that 34 mm case (instead of 35 mm like all others in my colection or that I saw) is normal ? Why would have Breitling decided to reduce the size of the case diameters of 1 mm ? Look at how the "G" of Breitling is stamped on the movement bridge (not same size as other letters) : it clearly shows that this has been amateurly stamped on the bridge, but does this prove that it's a fake ? (it seems that there are many genuine examples with "Breitling" later added on the bridge. Thanks |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What about this chronograph ? |
I'm really not sure why you keep asking the same question. From your eBay history you are clearly not new to vintage watches, and if you have a different opinion to me then that's fine, but I'm not going to give a different answer if you keep asking the same question over and over 
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