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Author:  buchholtz [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:34 am ]
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Funny, it takes a little more than that for me to consider someone to be "trusted".

I'm moving on to something much more modern. What do you think of this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270821008248?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_956wt_932

Once again, thanks for all of your help.

Mike
Author:  Roffensian [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:49 am ]
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buchholtz wrote:
Funny, it takes a little more than that for me to consider someone to be "trusted".

I'm moving on to something much more modern. What do you think of this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270821008248?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_956wt_932

Once again, thanks for all of your help.

Mike



That's real.
Author:  WatchFred [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:01 am ]
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Roffensian wrote:
buchholtz wrote:
Funny, it takes a little more than that for me to consider someone to be "trusted".

I'm moving on to something much more modern. What do you think of this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270821008248?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_956wt_932

Once again, thanks for all of your help.

Mike



That's real.

:yeahthat but quite a radical move ... do not loose your love and patience for vintage Breitlings, worth it in the end.
Author:  buchholtz [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:45 am ]
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Your are right, I am losing my confidence.

What do you think about this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-BREITLING-MOON-PHASE-TRIPLE-DATE-VALJOUX-90-/200655677690?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2eb802a8fa#ht_6473wt_698

I assume it is fake based on the Breitling stamp on the movement and the too good to be true face.

Thanks,

Mike
Author:  WatchFred [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:03 am ]
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buchholtz wrote:
Your are right, I am losing my confidence.

What do you think about this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-BREITLING-MOON-PHASE-TRIPLE-DATE-VALJOUX-90-/200655677690?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2eb802a8fa#ht_6473wt_698

I assume it is fake based on the Breitling stamp on the movement and the too good to be true face.

Thanks,

Mike


you knew it. buy the seller, then the watch. same seller as your first "find".
Author:  buchholtz [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:26 am ]
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Do you know this seller? I think I have finally found the real thing:

[url]
http://www.chrono24.com/en/dealer/lorol ... tview=null[/url]

Thanks,

Mike
Author:  Roffensian [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:29 am ]
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Don't know the seller, but watch looks good - nice example too.
Author:  WatchFred [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:19 am ]
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very nice piece, watch is also listed on ebay, together with a very nice 809, seller has very high/positive feedback.
http://cgi.ebay.ch/BREITLING-PREMIER-re ... 0696436765
clear thumbs up for this one from me. post pics if you buy it !
Author:  deepthought [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:47 am ]
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I purchased a vintage watch from him one or two years ago. He is based in Switzerland.
Search for his ebay username on the web as he also has an online shop.
Author:  buchholtz [ Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:22 am ]
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Thanks, guys. I feel like I am getting closer.

Cheers,

Mike
Author:  buchholtz [ Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:50 am ]
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Hi again,

I don't know what to make of this one, please tell me what you think.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320764539589?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_777wt_936

Thanks,

Mike
Author:  WatchFred [ Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:17 am ]
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buchholtz wrote:
Hi again,

I don't know what to make of this one, please tell me what you think.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320764539589?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_777wt_936

Thanks,

Mike

not sure what you mean by "make of this one" ? mid 60s TT 2000, dial is nice, crown clearly replacement. not too convinced w/ movement, seems a little early for the 7734 ?
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:17 pm ]
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Not sure that's a 7734 Fred. It's a 7734 bridge, but look at the reat of the movement - looks more 188 like, which is what I would expect in a 2000 Top Time. Having said that, the chrono module doesn't look typical for a 188 or a 7734 :huh
Author:  buchholtz [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:02 am ]
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Thanks for the inputs. Do you mean the watch is a franken and it is best to keep looking?

Mike
Author:  WatchFred [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:20 am ]
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buchholtz wrote:
Thanks for the inputs. Do you mean the watch is a franken and it is best to keep looking?

Mike


Mike, it really depends what you want to have ?

If you are looking for perfection, this Top Time definitely is not. Remember the watches you are looking at are 40 to 60 years old; a watchmaker typically was asked to repair a "daily beater", not to preserve a holy grail for some future collector.

I assume this is what happened here, something broke & the watchmaker used any parts he could get to have it repaired. Would not judge it intentionally franken, it takes a "Roff the Prof" ( :bow: ) to see things like questionable chrono movement components, but us mere mortals see that 1965 Top Time 2000 should have an authentic, complete Venus 188 and this one does not.
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