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robinsta
 Post subject: Early Cosmonaute 809
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:16 pm 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/172713880504

It's rough but is anything really wrong with this? I've never seen an all black Cosmonaute before.
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 Post subject: Early Cosmonaute 809
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:46 pm 
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Looks OK to me. All black was only around for a short period in the early 60s. Supposedly reference 809 was used from 1962, and transition to reverse-panda dial was around the same time. There is a pretty good history over at WUS

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f39/breitling-cosmonaute-history-development-legend-4034.html

and another write up on WatchProSite:

http://www.watchprosite.com/page-wf.forumpost/fi-17/ti-985258/pi-6901293/

The one on eBay seems to be in good condition. Case is nice and sharp, with just a few unfortunate dings here and there. Hands look good too, but not sure about the chrono seconds hand as I have seen both the arrow hand most often seen on early Navitimers and also the drop style hand that is similar to what you see on Speedmasters, and is on this example.
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 Post subject: Re: Early Cosmonaute 809
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:01 pm 
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Untouched correct example .
@Arcadelt : the sweephand is correct and specific to 1962 and 63 early Cossies.
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 Post subject: Re: Early Cosmonaute 809
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:05 pm 
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saabreit wrote:
@Arcadelt : the sweephand is correct and specific to 1962 and 63 early Cossies.


Thanks, I appreciate the education. Vintage watches are a minefield, but I continue to prod slowly with my bayonet.
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 Post subject: Re: Early Cosmonaute 809
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The best possible source about early Navi 806 and Cosmonaute 809 is Kurt Broendum

http://kurt-b.com/
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 Post subject: Re: Early Cosmonaute 809
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I've read his papers. They are very informative.
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far from rough, lovely condition. will fly high.
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 Post subject: Re: Early Cosmonaute 809
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WatchFred wrote:
far from rough, lovely condition. will fly high.


I would call it "honest" lovely condition, as there's a lot of edge wear to the outer chapter of the dial, but it will definitely appeal to some people.

Exciting top see where it ends though.

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