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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:11 pm 
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http://auctionata.com/intl/o/67149/brei ... n=barnebys

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:35 pm 
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that is VERY strange. correct ref. no. should be 801, missing serial, dial refinished.
mabe somebody fabbed a caseback or the complete case - the hallmarks are strange/atypical too.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:07 pm 
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WatchFred wrote:
that is VERY strange. correct ref. no. should be 801, missing serial, dial refinished.
mabe somebody fabbed a caseback or the complete case - the hallmarks are strange/atypical too.


And how odd to give it an 806 mark - the most known Breitling model.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:08 pm 
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In fact an 801, don't think it would have a signed crown with those hands as they would be for a piece from the 40's not 1965. Would think this is a fabricated case back as Fred says for sure by an inexperienced person in the nuances of vintage Breitling. Don't think/hope this one will make it to auction day.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:16 pm 
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Agree its a total fabrication

Proof should be the G underneath the ladies head on the lug
G is Geneve , but Breitling didnt move to Geneve until after 53

Ad altho there is no serial number this portrays to be older than 53 ?

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And i cant read the number in the key shape hallmark but that shape hallmark has not been used by Breitling afaik ?

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Are Auctionata not supposed to be somewhat.... reputable?


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buddman wrote:
Are Auctionata not supposed to be somewhat.... reputable?


They probably are but unless they are notified by someone they dont know any better

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I have notified auctionata (and RJ Broer informed them too) about several fakes in their last auction - even had a thread about that. they pulled them, just to relist and sell them in the next auction. They know little to nothing about watches and do not really care, apparently.


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Feedback from Auctionata :D they haven't a clue.

"Thank you for your interest in our auctions. Our expert checked the watch again and is sure it is a rare Breitling model ref. 806. We guarantee for the authenticity of all our objects with our guarantee of authenticity. To read more about it please follow the link below.

http://auctionata.com/intl/auctionata-guarantee

If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us."


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It's so common with auction houses- I've had same kind of response from watches of knightsbridge. Even though it's an auction and buyer beware is imperative, the prices of these pieces are often as high as ebay, and with commission even higher sometimes, I've often ignored auctions because bargains are few and far between when factoring everything in.


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