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[LOCKED] review: Kain Heritage
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Author:  CivilLawyer [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:06 am ]
Post subject:  [LOCKED] review: Kain Heritage
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Author:  Dracha [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
CivilLawyer wrote:
Having bought from kainheritage for the past few years, I decided to write and genuine negative review about his integrity and straps.



Right, and all your other reviews were quite positive ?


and this first line is all I read and needed to read

I am getting very annoyed with your posts about this strap maker and it looks like you are using this board to get them to provide you with free straps (IMO) trying to make up to you.

I wish you well and you are the first person that has managed to get him/herself on my ignore list
Author:  CivilLawyer [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
Well i am writing this review to impress upon the public about his integrity. He sent me a replacement strap.

I tell u why i decided to write this, because he sent me 10 emails telling me i can't reply to any quesitons about his items cos someone was asking me about his strap.

Who he think he is that he has the right to restrict me form replying regarding his items or write reviews.

I wrote both negative and positive reviews about him, i bought nearly 10 straps from him for the past 3 years, but recently i keep getting s--h-y--t stuff from him.. i can even post another picture of a broken piece. It's brand new unworn but with little skin broken.
Author:  BoneDoc [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
Dracha wrote:
CivilLawyer wrote:
Having bought from kainheritage for the past few years, I decided to write and genuine negative review about his integrity and straps.



Right, and all your other reviews were quite positive ?


and this first line is all I read and needed to read

I am getting very annoyed with your posts about this strap maker and it looks like you are using this board to get them to provide you with free straps (IMO) trying to make up to you.I wish you well and you are the first person that has managed to get him/herself on my ignore list


I am not so sure. I have no experience whatsoever with either Kainheritage nor the OP. But in reading his tone he simply sounds like he feels betrayed. In that I can completely understand both his frustration and anger. Also his need to vent and warn others. I think that KH having changed their description on their site is fairly compelling evidence that they know they have been misleading customers.
As a bit of a "leather snob" I would be irate to learn that I had been lied to about the material in one of my exotic pieces :guns: . Particularly if the substitution was less durable for the intended purpose (ie: more brittle in a watch band).
I think the OP has every right to be hacked off about it, and I for one appreciate the warning. I am looking to pick up a PAM in the not-so-distant future and knowing more about a strap maker is helpful.
That being said, I would be curious to hear the other side of the story. :?:
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
A review of OP's other posts may be revealing BD.
Author:  WatchFred [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
BoneDoc, if that had been the first post by Mr. CivilLawyerToBe; I'd be with you; but you've been away for too long, so you missed most of his threads; he's been complaining about everything and everybody, so I'm with Renè here.

some threads are quite hilarious, but it does get old after some time ...

Fred, the Childish Clown (copyright Mr. CivilLawyerToBe)


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43301

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=44746

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Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
I should also point out for the unsuspecting that contrary to the title this review is in no way official. The OP has no connection with BreitlingSource other than being a member.
Author:  WatchFred [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
Roff, this must be THE ONLY forum on earth that allows such a review about a forum advertiser/sponsor

:bow: to breitlingsource
Author:  CivilLawyer [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
WatchFred wrote:
Roff, this must be THE ONLY forum on earth that allows such a review about a forum advertiser/sponsor

:bow: to breitlingsource


So you mean an advertiser has impunity? So forums will protect dishonest advertisers and help them harm members? Then it sounds similar to corruption, breitlingsource is a clean forum, maybe only your own forum is like that.
Author:  CivilLawyer [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
Roffensian wrote:
A review of OP's other posts may be revealing BD.


Why you want to bring the past back and sow discord between me and Fred? I was the clown, not him. I admit last time i was rude towards Fred, but don't do this man.
Author:  Dracha [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
WatchFred wrote:
BoneDoc, if that had been the first post by Mr. CivilLawyerToBe; I'd be with you; but you've been away for too long, so you missed most of his threads; he's been complaining about everything and everybody, so I'm with Renè here.

some threads are quite hilarious, but it does get old after some time ...

Fred, the Childish Clown (copyright Mr. CivilLawyerToBe)




you didnt even post my personal favorite , must be because KH isnt mentioned :-)

CivilLawyer wrote:
Firstly, please don't criticize me for asking this question, my dad did something to my superocean heritage 46 on mesh without consulting now.

I came home from school today and found out that my watch was being placed like this. ( please see picture below, picture not mine )

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I fear that this way of placing my watch which has been positioned like this for 12 hours will damage my mesh bracelet, the pressure has been exerted on the mesh bracelet when being placed like this.

Will this damage my mesh ? I checked and it looks fine... thanks to my dad i have to post this.


Personally ? I would have seriously chastised my Father , and then hid from him waiting quietly for a few long weeks enough for him to calm down enough to be approached again ..
Author:  dinobaggio [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
Dracha that's hilarious- is this fellow for real- how does he get by day to day? This is seriously comedy gold- some mothers really do have 'em!

Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
Author:  CivilLawyer [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
Dracha wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
BoneDoc, if that had been the first post by Mr. CivilLawyerToBe; I'd be with you; but you've been away for too long, so you missed most of his threads; he's been complaining about everything and everybody, so I'm with Renè here.

some threads are quite hilarious, but it does get old after some time ...

Fred, the Childish Clown (copyright Mr. CivilLawyerToBe)




you didnt even post my personal favorite , must be because KH isnt mentioned :-)

CivilLawyer wrote:
Firstly, please don't criticize me for asking this question, my dad did something to my superocean heritage 46 on mesh without consulting now.

I came home from school today and found out that my watch was being placed like this. ( please see picture below, picture not mine )

Image

I fear that this way of placing my watch which has been positioned like this for 12 hours will damage my mesh bracelet, the pressure has been exerted on the mesh bracelet when being placed like this.

Will this damage my mesh ? I checked and it looks fine... thanks to my dad i have to post this.


Personally ? I would have seriously chastised my Father , and then hid from him waiting quietly for a few long weeks enough for him to calm down enough to be approached again ..


Oh my... you are unfilial
Author:  jnelson3097 [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
Great reading here, that's really all I can say
Author:  breitlingsource [ Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Official review: Kain Heritage lies and broken strap.
Civilawyer - I don't think there is any doubt here that Kain Heritage used Caiman Crocodile rather than Alligator, but I think it is your tone and attitude that is what turns off most readers, and seeing how you act gives you very little credibility in my mind.

You think you are the policeman for the world, that it is your duty to notify everyone around of the inequalities and corruption. Get off your soapbox of self-righteousness.

Not to mention you make statements like "And the cost of making one pair of caiman reptile strap is 5USD." It may or may not be the cost of the raw materials, but their prices are around $125-150 for Caiman Croc, and the hides are still more expensive than most leathers out there. Do you whine and complain about everyone out there that sells Leather straps for $125+? You complained to Kain again about how the hide only costs $10 but they charge $100 for a strap.

You're a vindictive, malevolent person. Obviously Kain has made some mistakes in labeling their products, and they have tried to make good by sending you two more straps (The "damaged ones" which you refused to return) and correcting what they've put on the website. There's also an implication by you that you won't bring up this issue any more after he sent you the third strap, which you conveniently ignore and agree to all other terms to give the impression that you agree. After you receive the strap, then you go all crazy on him and tell him you're going to tell the world what a horrible person he is. REALLY? It is my experience in forums that when a seller fixes a problem, you don't complain about it like this and make statements like below:

"I wrote 3 reviews about your straps on 3 forums, will continue to write them on watchtalk, watchuseek, panerist forum, 2 singapore forums and the rest."

"I will BUMP all the reviews once every week, so all reviews will stay there permanent."

"Maybe if u lose 10 customer, u lose 1kUSD, but do u think u will only lose 10? Maybe 50-100 u lose more."

You're a plain vindictive person that's goal obviously is to make Kain lose customers, not to make him fix what he has wronged. Kain has corrected the errors on his website now, and has replaced your strap twice without taking anything back.

Explanation from Kain Heritage on the mislabeled strap hides (I corrected some spelling mistakes):
I apologize for that, I am so sorry to bring you a trouble.
I placed a crocodile sourcing from a Hong Kong supplier in T.S.T Hong Kong.
He told me that crocodile and alligator is the same hide just spelling difference.
And that American called it as alligator, Asian and euro called it as Crocodile.
So, I just listed them as gator.
I also listed the Nile crocodile as alligator before. It's changed and listed as Nile crocodile two weeks ago.
Now, I've listed them as Cayman crocodile. Because I verified by another supplier in Hong King.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

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