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I have regulated my watch as it was running quite fast...now it seems to have slowed down although i'm not sure just quite enough,but the problem is that i have regulated it to it's farthest notch on the - side,it was just 1 notch to the + side before i regulated it!.
now can anyone tell me when a watch is new is the regulator set to the centre of the +/- to allow for regulating if/when required?,because if mine does infact contimue to run fast and i cannot regulate any further on the - scale then just what might now be the real problem i'm going to get my compass out to see if the watch has become magnetised,it could have i guess and could be the problem,but if that is not the problem could it be the spring????.
ultimately a service may be the only answer i know,but i'm interested to know the possible problems before i pursue that avenue.

Thanks

Paul

If they think!,iv'e been playing with the movement they will charge me more to fix it!,that sounds a very fair system for running a business.....i can just hear the telephone conversation now if they called to give you the quote.

Ring Ring...Hellooo...oh good morning this is Breitling we have your quote for the overhaul to you Chronomat...ahhh good thanks for calling me...ah but please wait we are going to have to quadruple what we originally told you because we THINK! you have opened the caseback but were not really 100% sure that you have!, so tell you what we will only triple it...is that ok...well as i live in the U.K and used to being ripped of on a daily basis! yes certainly do that...thankyou very much, i'll let old Roffensian know just how good a service you have given me....goodbye.......

hell i wish i had listened to old Roffensian way back when, he is so knowledgeable.

Regards

Hey Guys

Were talking about watches on here...not a life or death situation hell take a chill pill some people are way way too serious,ABOUT A WATCH.
Now i do like my watches but lighten up big time, people are dying of terrible things in this world.

seriously now....take things not too seriously.

Author:	cpys11688 [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:20 pm ]
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I have regulated my watch as it was running quite fast...now it seems to have slowed down although i'm not sure just quite enough,but the problem is that i have regulated it to it's farthest notch on the - side,it was just 1 notch to the + side before i regulated it!. now can anyone tell me when a watch is new is the regulator set to the centre of the +/- to allow for regulating if/when required?,because if mine does infact contimue to run fast and i cannot regulate any further on the - scale then just what might now be the real problem i'm going to get my compass out to see if the watch has become magnetised,it could have i guess and could be the problem,but if that is not the problem could it be the spring????. ultimately a service may be the only answer i know,but i'm interested to know the possible problems before i pursue that avenue. Thanks Paul

Author:	Roffensian [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:31 pm ]
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cpys11688 wrote: I have regulated my watch as it was running quite fast...now it seems to have slowed down although i'm not sure just quite enough,but the problem is that i have regulated it to it's farthest notch on the - side,it was just 1 notch to the + side before i regulated it!. now can anyone tell me when a watch is new is the regulator set to the centre of the +/- to allow for regulating if/when required?,because if mine does infact contimue to run fast and i cannot regulate any further on the - scale then just what might now be the real problem i'm going to get my compass out to see if the watch has become magnetised,it could have i guess and could be the problem,but if that is not the problem could it be the spring????. ultimately a service may be the only answer i know,but i'm interested to know the possible problems before i pursue that avenue. Thanks Paul I'm shocked - you mean that a watch that was running almost an hour fast in a 24 hour period wasn't fixed simply by regulating it yourself - wow, never saw that coming - oh wait, yes I did, in the very first post that I responded to! What could be the problem, it could be a damaged hairspring (magnetised or physically damaged), it could be a problem with the mainspring, it could be a problem with oils breaking down, it could even be a wear problem between a wheel and a pinion.

Author:	In2Deep [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:28 pm ]
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Looks like a trip to Breitling Repair is in order.

Author:	aleister [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:21 pm ]
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And, I guess, if they think you've been playing with the movement - a rather large service bill I'm afraid.

Author:	cpys11688 [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:56 am ]
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If they think!,iv'e been playing with the movement they will charge me more to fix it!,that sounds a very fair system for running a business.....i can just hear the telephone conversation now if they called to give you the quote. Ring Ring...Hellooo...oh good morning this is Breitling we have your quote for the overhaul to you Chronomat...ahhh good thanks for calling me...ah but please wait we are going to have to quadruple what we originally told you because we THINK! you have opened the caseback but were not really 100% sure that you have!, so tell you what we will only triple it...is that ok...well as i live in the U.K and used to being ripped of on a daily basis! yes certainly do that...thankyou very much, i'll let old Roffensian know just how good a service you have given me....goodbye....... hell i wish i had listened to old Roffensian way back when, he is so knowledgeable. Regards

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Author:	cpys11688 [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:00 am ]
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Hey Guys Were talking about watches on here...not a life or death situation hell take a chill pill some people are way way too serious,ABOUT A WATCH. Now i do like my watches but lighten up big time, people are dying of terrible things in this world. seriously now....take things not too seriously.

Author:	aleister [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:14 am ]
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cpys11688 wrote: If they think!,iv'e been playing with the movement they will charge me more to fix it!,that sounds a very fair system for running a business.....i can just hear the telephone conversation now if they called to give you the quote. Ring Ring...Hellooo...oh good morning this is Breitling we have your quote for the overhaul to you Chronomat...ahhh good thanks for calling me...ah but please wait we are going to have to quadruple what we originally told you because we THINK! you have opened the caseback but were not really 100% sure that you have!, so tell you what we will only triple it...is that ok...well as i live in the U.K and used to being ripped of on a daily basis! yes certainly do that...thankyou very much, i'll let old Roffensian know just how good a service you have given me....goodbye....... hell i wish i had listened to old Roffensian way back when, he is so knowledgeable. Regards No. But if you send it in to Breitling and they see that it has been handled by someone else than their service center, I'm pretty sure they'll insist on a full service regardless of the initial though, and that will cost you more than just a regulation.

Author:	Driver8 [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:48 am ]
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cpys11688 wrote: Hey Guys Were talking about watches on here...not a life or death situation hell take a chill pill some people are way way too serious,ABOUT A WATCH. Now i do like my watches but lighten up big time, people are dying of terrible things in this world. seriously now....take things not too seriously. Errrr, as far as I'm concerned nobody was taking this as a life or death situation - the guys were merely giving a little bit of (very good) advice to perhaps a) save you from ruining your watch, and b) save you from a having to pay out on a repair bill. But if you're cool with a knackered watch and/or a big repair bill, then good luck to you! To be honest, I'm pretty sure no-one here would be that bothered if you wanted to drive your car over your watch, or throw it off a tall building - after all it's your property and as you say it's certainly not a life or death situation. But assuming you like your watch, you may get some friendly advice on a site like this explaining why something may or may not be a very good idea. Entirely up to you if you want to take that advice of course. Hope you get your watch is sorted out OK.

Author:	GZGym1 [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:02 am ]
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Couldnt have said it better Driver! I dont understand people show up here to get advice then knock people for giving them their 2 cents

Author:	cpys11688 [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:31 am ]
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Hey guys the advice was greatly appreciated...what i was asking but took a long time!,and it took a long time because at the outset i took my watch to a local jeweller to look at it he told how much it would cost,and i got a reply back basically saying,you won't get any support with regards to using anyone but Breitling on here,which i thought was a little harsh to say that,and all i wanted to know was is the Valjoux 7750 movement specific to my/Breitling watches?,which took a long time to get the answer with regards to that,and i said if it had not been altered bby Breitling then why all the mystique and neccesity to spend several hundred $s when my jeweller could do it,we don't all have the thousands of dollars spare cash laying around to have a watch serviced,i am a humble hgv driver some guys on here might spend on watches what i earn!. i think most of the people that replied to my messages knew exactly what i was asking but chose to just give the easiest anwser,whaich was oh send it to Breitling to heck with the cost it's well worth it it will come back like new!,i'm quite aware what it should come back like having parted with the sort of money they want. oh and to remind people this is wahts called communicating,people either agree or disagree it makes for a good general discussion by all taking part,and you find sometimes those like me that say things as they are tend to rock the boat and some get a little aggitated and stay quiet {not me} whilst others rise to it and discuss the points made. hey guys i 'd like your advice on this if poss,i'm going to try the hands of an old beater black monster on the Breitling the lume is so much better,has anyone done this if so please post some pics i'd like to see if it looks cool before i start mine later tonight. regards Paul

Author:	cpys11688 [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:37 am ]
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No. But if you send it in to Breitling and they see that it has been handled by someone else than their service center, I'm pretty sure they'll insist on a full service regardless of the initial though, and that will cost you more than just a regulation. hey i moved the regulator maybe 8 notches to the - side..... here maybe if i moved it back to where it was initially with the tooth pick i used{ not a sledge hammer!} that would have them thinking hey!,and they'd maybe only charge me what they should for there service...mmm hell i'm gonna try it what the heck.

Author:	ike [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:34 pm ]
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It's your watch. I hope you don't f**k it up. Just don't expect much interest if you do.

Author:	Watchmakeress [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:46 pm ]
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cpys11688 wrote: I have regulated my watch as it was running quite fast...now it seems to have slowed down although i'm not sure just quite enough,but the problem is that i have regulated it to it's farthest notch on the - side,it was just 1 notch to the + side before i regulated it!. now can anyone tell me when a watch is new is the regulator set to the centre of the +/- to allow for regulating if/when required?,because if mine does infact contimue to run fast and i cannot regulate any further on the - scale then just what might now be the real problem i'm going to get my compass out to see if the watch has become magnetised,it could have i guess and could be the problem,but if that is not the problem could it be the spring????. ultimately a service may be the only answer i know,but i'm interested to know the possible problems before i pursue that avenue. Thanks Paul Hi Paul I don't really understand what's going on here, but the regulating technique you applied to your watch is not going to be sufficiant if you need to make such a big adjustment. The - and + regulator is only intended for fine regulation, meaning a few seconds. The actual regulation is performed on the hairspring itself with moving the regulator. Here's an article I found here http://www.e-watchmaker.com/regulation.html Determining which direction to move the regulator Start at the center of the hairspring and follow the coils to the stud. The SHORTEST length of hairspring is at the center while the LONGEST length is at the stud. If the stud is attached to a movable lever, do not move it. This is the adjustment for the beat of the watch and not the regulator. The stud/beat adjuster is located where the hairspring terminates. The regulator is located between the stud and the inner coils. The regulator will operate on the outer coil of the hairspring. If you move the regulator in the direction of the stud then the watch will slow down; however, moving it in the direction of the inner coil will speed up the watch. A warning: if the hairspring is tight against the pins and the regulator is moved then it will distort the hairspring.

Author:	cpys11688 [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:56 am ]
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Hi And this was my initial question way back when,reading between the lines so to speak there seems to me {unless i'm totally wrong} no reason why any respectable watch repairer could not check the watch out and carry out the appropriate work to make my watch as accurate as possble and without it going to Breitling for what would be a very expensive fix when it really may not be that much of a problem to remedy. the watch is not new it is several years old,now it seems when these words are used in a sentence ie old then almost every man and his dog feels the need to say ah well the watch is in need of desperate attention/servicing etc etc AT BREITLING when this may not infact be true,i'll admit if the watch was still in warranty then yes i'd be sending it to Breitling with a strong letter,but that is not the case here. i just wish someone could say yes with the problem you have try your watch guy and tell him the problem and yes a respactable watch repairer should be able to fix the problem..anyone going to stand up for the NON BREITLING APPROVED watch repairer out there that do carry out good work for us and our other members that have other watches?????.

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Author:	malfre01 [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:13 am ]
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YES!!!!!! A skilled craftsman can surely do the job. There, satisfied?? This kind of threads makes me wonder...why did you get a Breitling in the first place, why not just an Tissot or Longines or Seiko for that matter?? Why did I get a Breitlig (as a matter of fact, 2), easy question, I inherited them. The oldest of them I do not use because it is in so good condition and I do not want to ruin it. The other one I will use at a daily basis. It will be serviced every other year (at Breitling) because I have to. Just my 2 cents.