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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:35 pm 
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....removing the bracelet off my B01. Has anyone tried the Horotec tweezers, are they any good?

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Horotec make great tweezers in a lot of different patterns, but I would never use any of them for removing a bracelet, that's what a Bergeon 6767F is for!


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Even the ones specifically notched for a spring bar? I have been curious as to how the tweezers might work over the Bergeon 6825. Big difference in price. I use the small Bergeon with the "f" tip just fine, but it is tough on the steel bracelet. Rubber and calf are a lot easier to take off.

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rplace wrote:
Big difference in price.


just imagine the price of a scratch that was caused by using the incorrect tool

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I hate the 6825. I've used it a few times and just can't get on with it.

The spring bar tweezers are little more than a gimmick as far as I am concerned. They don't open wide enough for modern watches without forcing them. In turn that makes the angle more shallow and doesn't allow for a good secure grip.

The 6767F allows for any angle that you need, makes adjustment easy and just flat out works. It also costs under $20 - no brainer for me.


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I'll repeat what Roff told me as a new member - practice, practice, practice. I change out bracelets for straps ALL the time and I am the most ham fisted fool on the face of the Earth. Be patient and follow the video tutorial here. Once you get it you will be amazed how easy it is.


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Sorry for the slight hijack, but this has always concerned me. I have watched that video 20 times or more. I am doing it exactly the same way it shows. I don't have any problems changing straps/bracelets; it just takes a bit of time and patience. The heartburn I have is I don't see how you can do it without slightly scratching the lugs inside, around the spring bar holes. This seems especially prone on the bracelets where you have to get one side out of the hole but not removed because the end link gets wedged in a bit (am I making sense) and you have to rest the tip of the spring bar on the lug while you get the other side loose with a bit up pressure keeping the other side out of the hole.

Knock on wood I have never messed up the bracelet, or any visible part of the lug, but there are scratches inside the lug you can't see once all in place. Is that just the nature of the beast or is there something I am missing?

Not too worried on my SF as it is worn 300+ days a year, currently and in the grand scheme of things it is nothing all that special. As I get more/nicer watches I'd like to be able to swap straps, but just knowing the inside of the lug could get scratches give me pause.

I thought the 6825 might allow me to get it in/out with both sides compressed. I'd gladly foot the bill for the expensive tool, but I see so many people say all you need is the 6767F that I don't want to drop any money that is not necessary.


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Springbars aren't very sharp, I've never created a scratch that couldn't be removed with 30 seconds of a cape cod, and as you say it's not visible when a strap / bracelet is on anyway. It's certainly nowhere near as bad as the scratches that you get on a clasp just from normal wear.

Taping the underside of the lug avoids tool marks on the visible parts.


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...It's certainly nowhere near as bad as the scratches that you get on a clasp just from normal wear....


For sure, I just wondered if there is some trick to not getting any scratches inside the lug at all. I only have a polishing cloth with rouge on one side and soft cloth on the other, should I look into a cape cod? Not visible as you say, but OCD on my part.


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rplace wrote:
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...It's certainly nowhere near as bad as the scratches that you get on a clasp just from normal wear....


For sure, I just wondered if there is some trick to not getting any scratches inside the lug at all. I only have a polishing cloth with rouge on one side and soft cloth on the other, should I look into a cape cod? Not visible as you say, but OCD on my part.



There are many, many threads here on cape cods - another example of a very cheap tool that does what it is supposed to.


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Roffensian wrote:
Taping the underside of the lug avoids tool marks on the visible parts.

That's exactly what I do on the visible parts : for the parts I can't see (i.e. around the actual spring bar hole) I don't care TBH.

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I've used a few different tools, including the Bergeon one, during my 22 years (jeez, I'm not that old, am I) as a WIS. It's never been especially difficult removing and changing bracelets and straps apart from this one which is a total b*#@h. Thought that the tweezer tool would be easier to handle but I might give the Bergeon a run again tonight. If it doesn't work I might have to get me a Seawolf on rubber. Wonder if that argument will impress the wife. Probably not :(o

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rplace wrote:
Sorry for the slight hijack, but this has always concerned me. I have watched that video 20 times or more. I am doing it exactly the same way it shows. I don't have any problems changing straps/bracelets; it just takes a bit of time and patience. The heartburn I have is I don't see how you can do it without slightly scratching the lugs inside, around the spring bar holes. This seems especially prone on the bracelets where you have to get one side out of the hole but not removed because the end link gets wedged in a bit (am I making sense) and you have to rest the tip of the spring bar on the lug while you get the other side loose with a bit up pressure keeping the other side out of the hole.

Knock on wood I have never messed up the bracelet, or any visible part of the lug, but there are scratches inside the lug you can't see once all in place. Is that just the nature of the beast or is there something I am missing?

Not too worried on my SF as it is worn 300+ days a year, currently and in the grand scheme of things it is nothing all that special. As I get more/nicer watches I'd like to be able to swap straps, but just knowing the inside of the lug could get scratches give me pause.

I thought the 6825 might allow me to get it in/out with both sides compressed. I'd gladly foot the bill for the expensive tool, but I see so many people say all you need is the 6767F that I don't want to drop any money that is not necessary.

saw your topic, so did you go for the bergeon 6825? i m also tied between the 6767f & 6825, dunno which one should i go for..

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rplace wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
...It's certainly nowhere near as bad as the scratches that you get on a clasp just from normal wear....


For sure, I just wondered if there is some trick to not getting any scratches inside the lug at all. I only have a polishing cloth with rouge on one side and soft cloth on the other, should I look into a cape cod? Not visible as you say, but OCD on my part.

Boy....If only you see the scratches inside the case-back...You would die!
The service people scratch the service date inside the case back...And it looks like they use an old nail :shock:

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