Roffensian wrote:
If a mainspring is fully unowund I would always give it a few winds of the crown to get a reserve into the mainspring.
I should suggest that to the OP. 
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| Author: | hisham hedeya [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | SA restart from a dead stop |
I've bought a super avenger breitling from the official retailer a week ago , i winded it 40 turns and didn't wear through the week and eventually it came to a dead stop , I then tried to make it move again (even for a little period) by shaking it for some time but it didn't , i called the retailer and asked him and he replied that it should work. I went back to the retailer shop and the guy there gave it a triple hard shakes and the watch started to move , i was still worried and I tested other two SA watches at the shop and they moved after a dead stop only by a very gentle shaking ,so does this mean that i had a problem my watch (needs these hard shakes to start moving again). the second thing does this hard shaking can cause a damage to my watch. |
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| Author: | br549 [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
Hi and welcome to the site. I doesn't sound like a problem to me. You did the correct thing by giving it the initial 40 turn wind but by not wearing it for a week the energy stored in the initial wind was lost. Yes, sometimes you can start an automatic by shaking it a little but that is going to depend on any residual tension remaiing in the mainspring. You just need to wind it back up and wear it and I think you'll see theres no problem. It's ok to shake it gently but I wouldn't subject it to hard impacts against the palm of your hand etc. |
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| Author: | hisham hedeya [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
thanks alot for the reply , it reliefed me alot but can u tell why my watch needs this hard shaking and the others just a gentle one to start moving again , does this depend only on the residual energy or is it a syptom for any thing wrong. thanks again |
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| Author: | bnewbie [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
Welcome aboard. hisham hedeya wrote: why my watch needs this hard shaking and the others just a gentle one to start moving again After gentle shake it has a little delay to start, after hard one it starts immediately (depends on how many times rotor has spun). Don't think that there's something wrong with your SA. |
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| Author: | hisham hedeya [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
thanks alot bnewbie |
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| Author: | bnewbie [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
You are welcome. |
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| Author: | hisham hedeya [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
can you tell me if there is a way to know the date of manufacture of my watch |
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| Author: | bnewbie [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
hisham hedeya wrote: can you tell me if there is a way to know the date of manufacture of my watch It has a stamp between bottom lugs (bracelet needs to be removed). Four numbers + a letter and a number. First four numbers are time of manufacture (first two are week and the other two are year of manufacture). |
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| Author: | hisham hedeya [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
valuable piece of information ,thanks again |
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
Answered by PM before I saw this thread.... Shaking is a very unreliable way to start a watch with a fully unwound mainspring, and realistically heavy shaking or light shaking is completely irrelevant - you are trying to wind the mainspring by rotating the rotor, so why shake a watch when you really need to rotate it???? More violent shaking will cause the rotor to swing further each way, and will therefore transmit more energy, but in an SA that only winds one way it's going to take a while to work. If a mainspring is fully unowund I would always give it a few winds of the crown to get a reserve into the mainspring. |
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| Author: | bnewbie [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
Roffensian wrote: If a mainspring is fully unowund I would always give it a few winds of the crown to get a reserve into the mainspring. I should suggest that to the OP.
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| Author: | onewatchnut [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
A properly adjusted movement should start without shaking by winding the mainspring. You should be able to hold the watch motionless and see it start as the crown is turned a few turns. If, after winding it several turns of the crown, it requires a shake to get it started, it is out of beat. It causes no damage, but the positional timing is usually adversly affected. If the mainspring is unwound to the point that it cannot impart enough energy to the pallet fork to keep the balance in motion, shaking will only result in one or two swings of the balance wheel. Then you will be back to the original condition. The fact that it had run to the point where a gentle shake would not make it run for a few seconds speaks well of the movement. It had run until there was absolutely no power left. |
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| Author: | mikesyd [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
Hi Im new to the forum and just bought my first Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish .. Just a beautiful watch!!!! due to my hard knock working enviroment I only were it during those times I dont work !! which of course varies from time to time.. anyways last night I didn't were my watch for 16 hours and noticed when I was going to put it on today arvo it had stopped but as soon as I grabbed it it started to run again...no shake no nothing...sweet !!! but my issue is I only have owned it for under 2weeks and isn't it supposed to have 40 hr reserve? or should I wind it up more often due to not using it every day? cheersss!!! 
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| Author: | Roffensian [ Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
mikesyd wrote: Hi Im new to the forum and just bought my first Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish .. Just a beautiful watch!!!! due to my hard knock working enviroment I only were it during those times I dont work !! which of course varies from time to time.. anyways last night I didn't were my watch for 16 hours and noticed when I was going to put it on today arvo it had stopped but as soon as I grabbed it it started to run again...no shake no nothing...sweet !!! but my issue is I only have owned it for under 2weeks and isn't it supposed to have 40 hr reserve? or should I wind it up more often due to not using it every day? cheersss!!! It will have a 42 hour power reserve from a full wind, but it depends whether you are wearing it enough to maintain a full wind. If the watch is only worn for a few hours after being off for quite some time then it's entirely possible that it's not getting a full wind and over time the mainspring is running down - it doesn't sound any more than that. You can't overwind an automatic so to be safe you can manually wind it every now and then to make sure that it is fully wound. Oh, and welcome to BreitlingSource. |
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| Author: | scipi [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SA restart from a dead stop |
I have a Colt Auto II which is new, with basicaly the same issue. I wore it for an hour on sunday, did not wind it and then this evening (24 hrs later), the watch had stopped. To get it to start again, I initialy wound it 40 times, it started for a bit then stopped again, wound it again, started for a couple of seconds and stopped again. Left it on my wrist and moved my wrist about and it restated and now seems to be running fine. Is this normal with Breitlings ? I wear my Speedmaster a few times a months and wind it and it starts straight away from a dead stop. I have a Seawolf Ti also which I use for work so If I am not going to wear the Colt II for a couple of weeks, can this cause problems with the watch ? I keep it in its original box. Is it best to pull the crown out when storing it ? My theory is that this way the mechanism will still have some energy in it when I want to use it again so it wont be starting from a dead stop. Any advice is always appreciated. |
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