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Author:  Filip [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Hi and my superOcean
Hi all,
I got pointed here via TZ-UK when I posted a picture of my new superOcean.

I'm not a Breitling collector (I had a Cadette in the past, but I'm mainly a collector of vintage divers), but when I came across this watch, I couldn't resist.
Even though there's a recent re-issue of these, there seems very little info about them on the www. Can anyone give me some more info on these?

I had the watch opened by my watchmaker and the movement in it is very beautifully decorated (he thinks ETA-base, late 50's) marked Breitling transocean.

Hope you guys can tell me more about this watch!

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Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
Very nice!

Likely a Venus 175 movement and could be as early as the mid 50s. Are there any numbers on the caseback - might help with the specific model / serial number. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't as they were often on the inside of the caseback.

I'll hit the books this evening and try and pull more.
Author:  Filip [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
Thanks for the quick reply!
No numbers on the outside of the caseback. I have no tools, but I'll ask my watchmaker to open it again later this week.
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
My first post was dumb. Not a 175 as that would make it a chrono :oops:

The 175s are in the chrono versions - can't remember what was in the non chrono versions. I will check when I get home.
Author:  Filip [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
I was kinda thinking that cal you mentioned was chrono too, but I have very little knowledge on Venus movements. Did they (Venus) make non chrono movements too?

I think my Cadette had either a Venus or Landeron in it. I do have a picture of that one:
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Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
Filip wrote:
I was kinda thinking that cal you mentioned was chrono too, but I have very little knowledge on Venus movements. Did they (Venus) make non chrono movements too?

I think my Cadette had either a Venus or Landeron in it. I do have a picture of that one:
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Looks like a Venus 188 - two register chrono at 3 and 9 right? Landeron movements were never used in Breitlings - despite the attempts of the fakers to convince us otherwise.

Venus did make some non chrono movements, but weren't as common in Breitlings.
Author:  In2Deep [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
Wow, that might be the first vintage that has made me drool a bit :oops:

Very nice find!
Author:  Roffensian [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
OK, this one's got me scratching my head a bit.

Is this an automatic movement? If so then it's likely an 807/A - the caseback has the two stylized planes and is marked 20 ATM 600 feet.

That's the Breitling 125 movement, and I have never been able to figure out what it's based on - it's a bit too late to be an in house movement (I think).
Author:  Filip [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
Yep, it's an automatic, keeping accurate time too!

The caseback does indeed have those two tailfins (or planes or whatever they are) on the back -very 'atomic', cool. Hard to take a picture of it but I'll try tomorrow in daylight.
Author:  Roffensian [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
Filip wrote:
Yep, it's an automatic, keeping accurate time too!

The caseback does indeed have those two tailfins (or planes or whatever they are) on the back -very 'atomic', cool. Hard to take a picture of it but I'll try tomorrow in daylight.


OK so it's definitely an 807/A with the Breitling 125 movement. What the basis of that movement is is completely beyond me.
Author:  Filip [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
Finally had some time and daylight to take a picture of the caseback:

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A caseback opening tool is on it's way from the bay, so a movement shot will follow soon (hopefully).
Author:  Roffensian [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hi and my superOcean
Perfect caseback for an 807/A - couldn't be better, and the condition looks pretty good too!
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